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    Default 27 Irish women availed of late term abortions on disability grounds. Pro-choice or eugenics?

    A significant number of Irish women are having very late abortions in the UK because their child will suffer some form of disability, the Irish Independent has learnt.They are having the abortions after the normal legal limit of 24 weeks into their pregnancy under a special exemption, health authorities confirmed.
    A British parliament inquiry next week will learn that 27 women from the Republic had these late abortions in 2010 and 2011 on the grounds that the foetus they were carrying was at risk of physical or mental disability.

    Late abortions for 27 Irish women on disability grounds - Independent.ie

    A little-known section of the 1967 abortion legislation allows for 24 weeks limit to be set aside and the baby can be terminated "up to birth" if tests indicate the child will have a disability.

    What is the opinion of politics.ie posters on whether a disability should be grounds for late term abortions?

    Also for those who favour allowing abortions specifically due to the baby being disabled, which disabilities should be grounds for an abortion up to birth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    A significant number of Irish women are having very late abortions in the UK because their child will suffer some form of disability, the Irish Independent has learnt.They are having the abortions after the normal legal limit of 24 weeks into their pregnancy under a special exemption, health authorities confirmed.
    A British parliament inquiry next week will learn that 27 women from the Republic had these late abortions in 2010 and 2011 on the grounds that the foetus they were carrying was at risk of physical or mental disability.

    Late abortions for 27 Irish women on disability grounds - Independent.ie

    A little-known section of the 1967 abortion legislation allows for 24 weeks limit to be set aside and the baby can be terminated "up to birth" if tests indicate the child will have a disability.

    What is the opinion of politics.ie posters on whether a disability should be grounds for late term abortions?

    Also for those who favour allowing abortions specifically due to the baby being disabled, which disabilities should be grounds for an abortion up to birth?


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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
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    A little-known section of the 1967 abortion legislation allows for 24 weeks limit to be set aside and the baby can be terminated "up to birth" if tests indicate the child will have a disability.

    What is the opinion of politics.ie posters on whether a disability should be grounds for late term abortions?
    My opinion is that this is disgusting. However it is the obvious end product of as culture that sees the fetus as expendable as opposed to a life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    A significant number of Irish women are having very late abortions in the UK because their child will suffer some form of disability, the Irish Independent has learnt.They are having the abortions after the normal legal limit of 24 weeks into their pregnancy under a special exemption, health authorities confirmed.
    A British parliament inquiry next week will learn that 27 women from the Republic had these late abortions in 2010 and 2011 on the grounds that the foetus they were carrying was at risk of physical or mental disability.

    Late abortions for 27 Irish women on disability grounds - Independent.ie

    A little-known section of the 1967 abortion legislation allows for 24 weeks limit to be set aside and the baby can be terminated "up to birth" if tests indicate the child will have a disability.

    What is the opinion of politics.ie posters on whether a disability should be grounds for late term abortions?

    Also for those who favour allowing abortions specifically due to the baby being disabled, which disabilities should be grounds for an abortion up to birth?
    You want to force people who have no means to look after them to give birth to disabled children?
    Profoundly disabled children required 24/7 care which not everyone is capable of providing.
    They shouldn't be made to do it if they don't want to and can't face it.
    And it's none of your ******************************ing business anyway.
    Any woman who wants an abortion at any time in her pregnancy and for any reason should have the right to have an abortion.
    Why do you give a sh*t about the private lives of people you never met in your life and whose lives don't interfere with yours?
    Why can't you ****************************** off and get a life you ignorant bigoted fanatical gobsh*te?

    This sums up how I feel about stupid mother******************************ing retards like you.

    Last edited by Hitch 22; 10th February 2013 at 01:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    My opinion is that this is disgusting. However it is the obvious end product of as culture that sees the fetus as expendable as opposed to a life.
    Ever been in the position of having to make such a decision?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch 22 View Post
    You want to force people who have no means to look after them to give birth to disabled children?
    Profoundly disabled children required 24/7 care which not everyone is capable of providing.
    They shouldn't be made to do it if they don't want to and can't face it.
    And it's none of your ******************************ing business anyway.
    Any woman who wants an abortion at any time in her pregnancy and for any reason should have the right to have an abortion.
    Why do you give a sh*t about the private lives of people you never met in your life and whose lives don't interfere with yours?
    Why can't you ****************************** off and get a life you ignorant bigoted fanatical gobsh*te?
    No concern for the babies with a disability?

    Do they deserve a death sentence for having a disability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    No concern for the babies with a disability?

    Do they deserve a death sentence for having a disability?
    In some cases the disability *is* a life sentence.

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    depends on the disability
    anencephaly, it's up to the parents
    cleft palate , no

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    No concern for the babies with a disability?

    Do they deserve a death sentence for having a disability?
    Who are you to force a complete stranger to go through the trauma of having a profoundly physically and mentally handicapped child?
    What point is there to inflicting that misery on a woman to force her give birth to that child and then depend on charity - services for the disable in case you didn't ******************************ing notice are non-******************************ing-existent in much of this country - not to mention to miserable existence you inflict on that child?
    Why would you force a woman to give birth to a child that has only hours or days or weeks to live?
    ****************************** OFF!

    You think women just decide - "Hey I'm going to have my hair done and then I'm going to have a scrape and then I'm gong to have my nails done and they I am going to celebrate having a scrape by going out and ******************************ing the first guy I meet!" - like as if its nothing?

    You are a stupid mother******************************er.

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