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    An Amish man, Samuel Mullet, has been sentenced to 15 years in jail for directing a campaign of hair-cutting amongst the Amish people he considered to be wrong in their religious beliefs. His followers, who actually committed the crimes, received lesser sentences of one to seven years.

    The judge considered Mullet and his followers had committed hate crimes, terrorising and traumatising their victims because of a religious dispute. The BBC report says: "Amish people believe the Bible instructs women not to cut their hair, and men to grow beards once they marry."

    I think the Ohio judge was very sympathetic to the Amish people and their beliefs. If there were Amish in Ireland, would they have received as much sympathy and understanding?
    BBC News - Samuel Mullet and Amish beard-cutters jailed in Ohio

    Here is Samuel Mullet, aged 67:
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    Mullet

    Hate crimes are a stupid and evil construct,

    The attackers should have got what they deserved at the time of the attacks,

    ie, a bullet or two in the face,

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    I don't see how he's being sympathetic with anyone. The convict orchestrated a number of assaults against people based on their religion and that assault was deliberately formed to cause religious humiliation on the victims. It's a hate crime by US law, as clear a case as you'll see. Screw him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribeye View Post
    Mullet

    Hate crimes are a stupid and evil construct,

    The attackers should have got what they deserved at the time of the attacks,

    ie, a bullet or two in the face,
    Err, aren't the Amish pacificists?

    What would you suggest in that case - that they put aside their belief about not killing in order to protect another about suitable dress/appearance?

    Sense of perspective, anyone?

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    He sounds like a dangerous man, capable of manipulating others to do things.

    On the face of it, hair cutting sounds trivial but it seems that he was into other dubious practices.
    The facts and nothing but the facts.

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    Go and cut a Nuns' hair and see how you get on.

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    Religious nutters everywhere. We have plenty here to be worrying about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Area View Post
    Go and cut a Nuns' hair and see how you get on.
    I thought nuns had shaved heads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by petaljam View Post
    Err, aren't the Amish pacificists?

    What would you suggest in that case - that they put aside their belief about not killing in order to protect another about suitable dress/appearance?

    Sense of perspective, anyone?
    I dunno what the Amish belief system is,

    I was projecting my own belief system,

    Nobody has the right to put their paws on anyone unless they have permission or it's in self defence,

    I don't even like getting my hair cut when I decide to do it voluntarily, let alone having it forced on me,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribeye View Post
    I dunno what the Amish belief system is,

    I was projecting my own belief system
    You're not the only one - I've noticed that's a particularly frequent problem on p.ie.

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