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Thread: croke park II - stick it to the man, lets tie the public sector cuts to matching cuts to td and minister benefits

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    Ok i know nobody wants to accept cuts to their take home. But there's a fair chance it'll be pushed through, there'll be strikes, whatever, but in the end it can be forced through.

    There's another way though. This is a highly visible negotiation process. SIPTU and the other unions can demand that whatever reductions the govt makes of public sector workers are matched by reductions in salaries, benefits and pensions to td and ministers. It's a unique opportunity to put the govt on the spot and demand they make the same sacrifices they ask of us.

    Can you imagine the president of SIPTU in the media spotlight saying the govt finds it ok to ask us to accept a reduction of eur1bn, when they themselves are unwilling to do anything about their own high salaries, benefits and pensions. It'd be a media field day.

    Plus, any money saved in td salaries, benefits and pensions is money that doesnt have to be saved off the back of nurses and gardai.

    It's a big ask on the public sector unions, but they're in a unique position to stick it to the man. Lets all ask our friends and collegues in the public service to think of this option, in their interest and the nations interest

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancl2000 View Post
    Ok i know nobody wants to accept cuts to their take home. But there's a fair chance it'll be pushed through, there'll be strikes, whatever, but in the end it can be forced through.

    There's another way though. This is a highly visible negotiation process. SIPTU and the other unions can demand that whatever reductions the govt makes of public sector workers are matched by reductions in salaries, benefits and pensions to td and ministers. It's a unique opportunity to put the govt on the spot and demand they make the same sacrifices they ask of us.

    Can you imagine the president of SIPTU in the media spotlight saying the govt finds it ok to ask us to accept a reduction of eur1bn, when they themselves are unwilling to do anything about their own high salaries, benefits and pensions. It'd be a media field day.

    Plus, any money saved in td salaries, benefits and pensions is money that doesnt have to be saved off the back of nurses and gardai.

    It's a big ask on the public sector unions, but they're in a unique position to stick it to the man. Lets all ask our friends and collegues in the public service to think of this option, in their interest and the nations interest
    They would shyt themselves if the government agreed to take a 10 or 15% cut. The govnmt. TDs would be laughing all the way to the next election.

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    Nah.....I think one sixth of the PAYE workforce are tired of having their pockets raided separately for what is soon to be the third time in five years by the political class.

    Dont mind the politicians. ...they'll top up any paycut with expenses.

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    Can we use this thread to slag off teachers?

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    Better still, turn the dogs on each other. Let the administrators of public services drawn from the ranks of higher civil servants and who are creatures of political patronage account for the failures in building credible public services. What strategies were available to our clown cabinet. During the boom we did not house the homeless, build hospitals and schools. We did not equip police with vehicles or build prisons to hold the rapists and burglars. Traitors should have to sleep warily, waiting for the treachery to be publicly revealed.

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    I like the idea but would refine it by changing the formula such that a 1% cut in front line pay equals a 10% cut to the politicians and senior management (oh, and that includes senior union officials)
    “Still paying, still to owe. Eternal woe! ” ― Paradise Lost, John Milton

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    They will. Its strongly expected there will be a significant cut in the salaries of the higher paid public service - inc TDs, Consultants, Judges etc.

    Remember, of the 288,000 public servants, only 6,000 earn more than 100k. Thats 6,000 out of 110k in the state, earning more than €100k, so its not that big a pool.

    But they will take a significant cut- all of them.

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    And so if they go ahead and ask the people to ablolish the seanad and they do, does this mean that the same percentage of public servant posts can be abolished?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackryan View Post
    And so if they go ahead and ask the people to ablolish the seanad and they do, does this mean that the same percentage of public servant posts can be abolished?
    I think abolishing the entire Oireachtas would save €30m pa. But of course you'd have no Government **no jokes please**

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    Great idea.

    It'll never happen.

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