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    One of sad side issues with the Magdalene laundry camps were the apparent collusion by all and sundry. The Gardai appear to have acted as enforcers for the nuns even where there was no criminal/court angle. It appears there were individual gardai that turned a blind eye and gave them a chance to get "the boat to England". Will there be an apology?



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    The senior officer on duty promised that he would “send the car out there straight away”, but then told his subordinates “Ah, we’ll just have a cup of tea first. We’ll let the girls make the boat” to Britain which was due to leave Cork docks shortly.

    He says that his father “does recall having to bring girls back” but he regarded himself as being under orders to do so. “He doesn’t talk about it. It bothers him, it bothers him. All he’ll say was that, “Yeah, there were times. And you’d be sent, and you had to go, and you had to find them. And you had to bring them back, and you had to sign them in. You knew you weren’t signing them into anything nice. But that was your job, that was your badge. You had to do it’.”
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    Not every one stood idly by. Hail to Jemmy Gunnery!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dylan2010 View Post
    One of sad side issues with the Magdalene laundry camps were the apparent collusion by all and sundry. The Gardai appear to have acted as enforcers for the nuns ever where there was no criminal/court angle. It appears there were individual gardai that turned a blind eye and gave them a chance to get "the boat to England". Will there be an apology?



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    The stories are shocking and barbaric as been told by Josephine Meade on Morning Ireland now, forced to work, all her siblings taken away, hair cut short and her name changed. Everybody knew and the powers that be are still sweeping and looking for carpets.

    The report I believe is due out today and was headed by Martin MacAlease (now retired) but no minister will launch the report, or will commend this report to the house. We do not even know how many women were incarcerated as the religious orders wont give the info.

    Another sad chapter of Ireland unable to run matters in a just or humane way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levellers View Post
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    Not every one stood idly by. Hail to Jemmy Gunnery!
    But the majority of Irish people complied. It is farcical that the church alone be scapegoated here. Apologies are surely due from the minister for justice et al?

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    If there is one aspect of the Magdalene Laundries criminality that cries out for an apology by the Irish State, it is the way the Irish State suspended the rule of law for decades in order to allow the kidnappers to do exactly what they wanted with their captives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Claudius View Post
    But the majority of Irish people complied. It is farcical that the church alone be scapegoated here. Apologies are surely due from the minister for justice et al?
    Of course.

    But be careful: the fact that the State complied with the criminality of senior (and junior) people in the Church does absolutely nothing to exonerate the Church from that criminality.

    It's not even a mitigating factor.

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    Shameful episode, we can rightly blame the church, but everyone else stood idly by and let it happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Claudius View Post
    But the majority of Irish people complied. It is farcical that the church alone be scapegoated here. Apologies are surely due from the minister for justice et al?
    So did the German people in the 30's. And their excuses were that they 'didn't know'. And there was a Gestapo abroad in Ireland too just as there was in Germany.

    They are still around too some of the remnants. There's an ancient old nutter who posted around these parts who took it on himself to wander around Irish bars near Holloway Road in London just a few years back trying to dig up dirt on a former inmate of the residential homes that he and his equally insane old Ultra mates could use to discredit the man.
    Whenever understanding exists, accepting or rejecting is unnecessary. (Fundamentals of a Gnostic Education).

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    This is a shame on all the Country.
    We all shre in the pride of anything achieved in this Country it's about time we all
    hung our heads in shame too.

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