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    Default University of Leicester confirm remains are Richard the III.

    After some painstaking excavation and investigations, the University of Leicester this morning announced that the remains discovered in a council car park last year are, "Beyond reasonable doubt' those of king Richard the Third, the last plantagenet monarch of England & the last English king to die in battle.

    Richard, killed at Bosworth during the last clash of the War of the Roses, was identified through DNA comparisons with living descendants, Radio-carbon dating and from known physical characteristics (he had a pronounced curvature of the spine).
    BBC News - Richard III dig: DNA confirms bones are king's

    He had suffered a large number of horrific injuries at or near time of death, including 'humiliation injuries' (a sword in the buttock). He sustained at least two potentially fatal skull injuries, and at least ten in all, suggesting assault by a number of assailants which seems to confirm contemporary accounts of the battle:

    Polydore Vergil, Henry Tudor's official historian, would later record that "King Richard, alone, was killed fighting manfully in the thickest press of his enemies"
    Richard III of England - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    However it also reveals that the withered arm, a feature of so many iconic portrayals of Richard, to have been the product of Shakespeares artistic license.

    Interestingly the precise location of Richards remains in the carpark, were marked by a painted capital 'R'.
    Richard III dig: 'R' marks the spot where skeleton found in Leicester car park | This is Leicestershire



    The ability of science to bring history so vividly to life across hundreds of years has now reached genuinley astonishing levels - As have the capabilities and standards of the university system.
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    Good that the remains were found in Leicester - the DNA work etc was done by members of the University - the very same University which had Prof Alec Jeffries on the faculty in 1986; when he provided the DNA evidence which secured the first criminal conviction in the world using the DNA as a great part of the case.
    Ex-cop and best selling author Joseph Wambaugh from USA (Blue Knight, The Onion Field, etc) was so taken with this event that he wrote a very good book about it - 'The Blooding'
    Prof Jeffries is the man who is to DNA what Salk is to Polio Vaccine...
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    University,
    remains..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astral Peaks View Post
    University,
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    Dammit - first thread nerves
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    They featured this case on the BBC's One Show a few weeks ago.
    It might be on BBC's iplayer still
    Politics.ie moderators should moderate instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainmaker View Post
    Dammit - first thread nerves
    You got those typos changed real quick, well done!!

    Later tonight a film-length Channel 4 documentary: Richard III: The King in the Car Park, covering today's news and the background to the history will be screened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astral Peaks View Post
    You got those typos changed real quick, well done!!

    Later tonight a film-length Channel 4 documentary: Richard III: The King in the Car Park, covering today's news and the background to the history will be screened.
    Thanks - and thanks for the heads up, I wouldn't miss it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainmaker View Post
    Dammit - first thread nerves
    Select All [Ctrl +A],Cut from comment box [Ctrl X], Open Word ,Paste in Word [Ctrl V], hit F7,correct spellings, Cut from Word, Paste into comment box.
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    Best comment on the BBC site has to be

    "Why was he buried under a car park?"

    A great genius right there.

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    There was a documentary on Saturday on More4, Fact or Fiction: Richard III. Presented by Tony Robinson, it mentioned the bones at the end but didn't definitely say they were his. But much of modern popular perception of Richard III is a product of Tudor propaganda.

    Worrying how propaganda can become widely accepted as fact over time.

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