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    According to a report in the Irish Examiner today,

    ''About 400 young women are being trafficked into Ireland to take part in sham marriages while the Government has so far failed to close a loophole that allows the criminals organising them to go free.''

    ''Figures released last year by the Department of Justice said that up to the end of Sept 2011, there were 553 applications for residency from non-EU nationals as a spouse of an EU citizen, a third involved Latvian or Lithuanian spouses.''

    ''Two years ago the Latvian authorities asked Ireland to take action to stop these marriages, mostly conducted with Pakistani, Bangladeshi, and Indian men. Being married to an EU national means the husband can apply for a passport of an EU country.''

    However, Minister Shatter appears to be taking a laidback approach to this. According to the Examiner's report, the Department of Justice did comment directly on this but a statement issued by it ''said that minister Alan Shatter said he was working closely with his counterpart in Britain on the issue and had asked officials to re-examine to draft amendments on immigration related sham marriages in the Immigration Residence and Protection Bill 2010 and the Free Movement regulations that transposed the EU directive into Irish law.''

    Full report here: 400 a year trafficked for sham marriages | Irish Examiner

    Meanwhile, the trafficking goes on and yet more bogus applications for residency and citizenship are submitted.

    One must seriously question whether Minister Shatter regards immigration matters even those involving the serious abuse of vulnerable women and blatant criminality involved as warranting urgent attention?

    This raises an allied and perhaps a more core issue about the Minister for Justice and Equality and Defence's appreciation of and vision for Ireland. Does the eminent Minister, who makes great fanfare out of handing out Irish citizenship to those who ''qualify'' on a publicly trumpeted 'fast-tracked' basis, really believe in Ireland as a nation State or does he just consider our country as an optionally permanent halting site, with citizenship thrown in for those who stay around long enough, for global humanity and irrespective of the criminality involved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castiel View Post
    Shatter doesn't care one bit for Ireland.

    I think all Jews refer to Israel as their homeland.
    Usually I'm skeptical of anti-semitism claims, but this one is a doozey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castiel View Post
    Shatter doesn't care one bit for Ireland.

    I think all Jews refer to Israel as their homeland.
    A bit like Irish Americans?
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    Another good reason as to why the state should get out of the marriage business.

    Marriage privatization
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    Quote Originally Posted by Castiel View Post
    Shatter doesn't care one bit for Ireland.

    I think all Jews refer to Israel as their homeland.
    And people say there's no anti-semitism in Ireland or on this site.
    "Give us the future, we've had enough of YOUR past, Give us back our country, to live in, to grow in and to love..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    And people say there's no anti-semitism in Ireland or on this site.
    How about addressing the issues raised in the OP?

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    Another debacle where lazybones is dragging his heels and doing SFA.
    Coveney's ambition is the be Ireland's next EU Commissar and Ireland will pay a price as he builds his CV to position himself sufficiently loyal to the nEU empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Pat View Post
    According to a report in the Irish Examiner today,

    ''About 400 young women are being trafficked into Ireland to take part in sham marriages while the Government has so far failed to close a loophole that allows the criminals organising them to go free.''

    ''Figures released last year by the Department of Justice said that up to the end of Sept 2011, there were 553 applications for residency from non-EU nationals as a spouse of an EU citizen, a third involved Latvian or Lithuanian spouses.''

    ''Two years ago the Latvian authorities asked Ireland to take action to stop these marriages, mostly conducted with Pakistani, Bangladeshi, and Indian men. Being married to an EU national means the husband can apply for a passport of an EU country.''

    However, Minister Shatter appears to be taking a laidback approach to this. According to the Examiner's report, the Department of Justice did comment directly on this but a statement issued by it ''said that minister Alan Shatter said he was working closely with his counterpart in Britain on the issue and had asked officials to re-examine to draft amendments on immigration related sham marriages in the Immigration Residence and Protection Bill 2010 and the Free Movement regulations that transposed the EU directive into Irish law.''

    Full report here: 400 a year trafficked for sham marriages | Irish Examiner

    Meanwhile, the trafficking goes on and yet more bogus applications for residency and citizenship are submitted.

    One must seriously question whether Minister Shatter regards immigration matters even those involving the serious abuse of vulnerable women and blatant criminality involved as warranting urgent attention?

    This raises an allied and perhaps a more core issue about the Minister for Justice and Equality and Defence's appreciation of and vision for Ireland. Does the eminent Minister, who makes great fanfare out of handing out Irish citizenship to those who ''qualify'' on a publicly trumpeted 'fast-tracked' basis, really believe in Ireland as a nation State or does he just consider our country as an optionally permanent halting site, with citizenship thrown in for those who stay around long enough, for global humanity and irrespective of the criminality involved?

    Look someone has to fill all the empty properties that are owned by our FF/FG/Labour landlords. Why would Minister Shatter hinder potential tenants entering this Flawed State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Pat View Post
    How about addressing the issues raised in the OP?
    I wish the government well in stopping this.

    And to be fair the article does say that they are working on this. The fact that the relevnt bill is currently going through the Oireachtas should speed things up as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    Another debacle where lazybones is dragging his heels and doing SFA.
    I wouldn't call him lazy he appears to be one of the more active members of this government. He might not be prioritising areas you would like him to prioritise.

    In any case is this really all his fault as opposed to all the ministers for justice before him?

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