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Thread: Arkansas votes to ban abortion once baby's heart starts to beat.

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    Default Arkansas votes to ban abortion once baby's heart starts to beat.

    Arkansas Senate OKs Ban on Abortions After Heartbeat Begins | LifeNews.com

    Very interesting decision this and bound to be challenged and taken to the Supreme Court, but a major victory for the Pro-Life campaign, in the interim. It appears that we are not the only ones caught in the middle of a legal and moral minefield on this issue, right now.
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    They are attempting to reverse Roe v Wade de-facto since they cannot do so de-jure. I don't think they will succeed, because there are 4 liberals and one moderate conservative (Kennedy). Kennedy has supported some restrictions e.g. joined the SC ruling the ban on partial-birth abortions was constitutional, and that parents should be informed beforehand of an abortion by a minor.

    The vote was 28-9 in the Senate. If it's like that in the State House the Governor (a Democrat) won't be able to veto it.
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    State law cannot overturn RoevWade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    Arkansas Senate OKs Ban on Abortions After Heartbeat Begins | LifeNews.com

    Very interesting decision this and bound to be challenged and taken to the Supreme Court, but a major victory for the Pro-Life campaign, in the interim. It appears that we are not the only ones caught in the middle of a legal and moral minefield on this issue, right now.
    I can only hope it works out for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    State law cannot overturn RoevWade
    No but the SC can. The GOP knows these kind of laws will make their way up to the US Supreme Court where they hope the conservative majority will rule them constitutional or even overturning Roe v Wade. The SC are not bound by precedent in the way Irish courts are. They have historically overturned earlier SC rulings, such as on gay rights.

    Even if they don't overturn Roe v Wade, they might be able to chip away at it so as to render it meaningless.
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    That would be about the fifth or sixth week of pregnancy, far too soon! its a conniving attempt to get around Roe v Wade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    State law cannot overturn RoevWade
    Roe vs Wade was bound to be challenged because the timing of viability outside of the womb forty years ago (set at 28 weeks) and now (24-25 weeks and even 23 in exceptional circumstances) is different.
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    The GOP's moral-values frenzy continues in fellow redneck state Tennessee, with the introduction of a bill requiring schools to inform parents if they suspect their child might be gay. Homophobia is rampant in the American South, where most of the 33% of Americans that want homosexuality made illegal (as it was in the South before Lawrence v Texas in 2002) live.

    This horrible party reminds us that Europe was better shot of the Puritans that moved there hundreds of years ago. Thankfully they are a declining - but still very large - minority there now.
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    If the lunatics pushing these insane laws had their way they would be executing millions of women for having abortions.

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    GOP are correct to take up this issue.

    They're invoking Ronald Reagan and they're correct.

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