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    Channel Four Dispatches programme to be shown tonight at 10.30pm alleges that
    Rabbi Ephraim Padwa, who leads the Charedi community in London's Stamford Hill - instructing an alleged victim of child sexual abuse not to go to the police describing it as ‘mesira’, which means it's forbidden to report a Jew to non-Jewish authority.

    Dispatches - Britain's Hidden Child Abuse - Channel 4

    The programme will show hidden recordings by a former member of the charedi community,who went to the Rabbi.
    Another Charedi Rabbi claims later in the program that Rabbi Ephraim Padwa recently forbade a father who had told the police that his son had been sexually abused from pursuing the case.
    Why are people of the community forbidden from taking their serious complaints of sexual abuse to the police?
    It seems people are terrified to report it,What are the consequences for the victims if they bring it further,surely it cant be right to deal with this internally,or cover it up,such as other religious organisations have tried to do.

    "Last night it released another statement outlining its procedures for dealing with child sex abuse complaints. It said: “The Orthodox Hebrew Congregations have a special Committee to deal with incidences of attacks of this kind on the children of our congregations. The members of the Committee consist of rabbis, educators and members of the community, among whom there are those who have been trained in the right way to tackle this."

    Senior British rabbi filmed telling alleged child abuse victim not to go to the police - Home News - UK - The Independent

    "Wednesday’s documentary, “Britain’s Hidden Child Abuse,” comes at a particularly sensitive time for London’s Haredi community, which is embroiled in an ongoing scandal over a former religious judge for the Union of Orthodox Hebrew Congregations, Rabbi Chaim Halpern. He has been accused of sexual misconduct involving about 30 women who came to him for counseling."

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    Quote Originally Posted by james toney View Post
    Channel Four Dispatches programme to be shown tonight at 10.30pm alleges that
    Rabbi Ephraim Padwa, who leads the Charedi community in London's Stamford Hill - instructing an alleged victim of child sexual abuse not to go to the police describing it as ‘mesira’, which means it's forbidden to report a Jew to non-Jewish authority.

    Dispatches - Britain's Hidden Child Abuse - Channel 4

    The programme will show hidden recordings by a former member of the charedi community,who went to the Rabbi.
    Another Charedi Rabbi claims later in the program that Rabbi Ephraim Padwa recently forbade a father who had told the police that his son had been sexually abused from pursuing the case.
    Why are people of the community forbidden from taking their serious complaints of sexual abuse to the police?
    It seems people are terrified to report it,What are the consequences for the victims if they bring it further,surely it cant be right to deal with this internally,or cover it up,such as other religious organisations have tried to do.

    "Last night it released another statement outlining its procedures for dealing with child sex abuse complaints. It said: “The Orthodox Hebrew Congregations have a special Committee to deal with incidences of attacks of this kind on the children of our congregations. The members of the Committee consist of rabbis, educators and members of the community, among whom there are those who have been trained in the right way to tackle this."

    Senior British rabbi filmed telling alleged child abuse victim not to go to the police - Home News - UK - The Independent

    "Wednesday’s documentary, “Britain’s Hidden Child Abuse,” comes at a particularly sensitive time for London’s Haredi community, which is embroiled in an ongoing scandal over a former religious judge for the Union of Orthodox Hebrew Congregations, Rabbi Chaim Halpern. He has been accused of sexual misconduct involving about 30 women who came to him for counseling."

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    Anti-semitic slander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james toney View Post
    Channel Four Dispatches programme to be shown tonight at 10.30pm alleges that
    Rabbi Ephraim Padwa, who leads the Charedi community in London's Stamford Hill - instructing an alleged victim of child sexual abuse not to go to the police describing it as ‘mesira’, which means it's forbidden to report a Jew to non-Jewish authority.

    Dispatches - Britain's Hidden Child Abuse - Channel 4

    The programme will show hidden recordings by a former member of the charedi community,who went to the Rabbi.
    Another Charedi Rabbi claims later in the program that Rabbi Ephraim Padwa recently forbade a father who had told the police that his son had been sexually abused from pursuing the case.
    Why are people of the community forbidden from taking their serious complaints of sexual abuse to the police?
    It seems people are terrified to report it,What are the consequences for the victims if they bring it further,surely it cant be right to deal with this internally,or cover it up,such as other religious organisations have tried to do.

    "Last night it released another statement outlining its procedures for dealing with child sex abuse complaints. It said: “The Orthodox Hebrew Congregations have a special Committee to deal with incidences of attacks of this kind on the children of our congregations. The members of the Committee consist of rabbis, educators and members of the community, among whom there are those who have been trained in the right way to tackle this."

    Senior British rabbi filmed telling alleged child abuse victim not to go to the police - Home News - UK - The Independent

    "Wednesday’s documentary, “Britain’s Hidden Child Abuse,” comes at a particularly sensitive time for London’s Haredi community, which is embroiled in an ongoing scandal over a former religious judge for the Union of Orthodox Hebrew Congregations, Rabbi Chaim Halpern. He has been accused of sexual misconduct involving about 30 women who came to him for counseling."

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    I wonder will they be doing a similar documentary on the Socialist Workers Party's attempt to cover up a rape committed by one of its members against another member, because they didn't trust the bourgeois legal system?

    I somehow doubt that the media would want to discommode a left wing organisation like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgellons View Post
    Anti-semitic slander.
    Anti-intelligence dumb one liner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankSpeaks View Post
    Is the Rabbi getting advice from Cardinal Brady?
    Here's a chicken and egg question for you - does Christianity predate Judaism?

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    Listen to this song by Tim Minchin - who has been on Jonathan Ross Graham Norton show & other BBC shows (an organisation which facilitated Jimmy Saville) - about the Pope:

    Tim Minchin I Hate Papists (Catholics) Pope Song - YouTube


    Now substitute "Papist" for "Jew" in that song and consider how many milliseconds Tim Minchin would have to wait before he'd be ostracised, up for incitement to hatred or worse (quite rightly, anti semitism shouldn't be tolerated).

    Now compare the Irish media reportage of the catholic church the BBC, HSE and other religions.

    Proof: The Irish media doesn't report on abuse out of care for children. Only to get at RCC.

    Contrast this with British media which reports consistently out of concern for children, regardless of perpetrator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Tubbs View Post
    I wonder will they be doing a similar documentary on the Socialist Workers Party's attempt to cover up a rape committed by one of its members against another member, because they didn't trust the bourgeois legal system?

    I somehow doubt that the media would want to discommode a left wing organisation like that.


    Like Roman Polanski and Jimmy Saville were covered up for by their media/celeb friends, the hard left that runs the media will also cover up for their own.

    While simultaneously pointing an accusing finger at the church.

    But what more can you expect?

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