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Thread: Catholic Church: Fetuses are NOT people and have NO rights

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    Default Catholic Church: Fetuses are NOT people and have NO rights

    Daily Kos: A fetus is not a person if it costs us money, says Catholic Church

    Just a few months ago in America the Catholic Church sent it's representatives to Congress to argue that life begins at conception, just like they are arguing here, and that unborn children are still children with the same rights as everyone else.

    Well, turns out the Church is now arguing just the opposite.

    A woman who was pregnant with twins had some difficulty and went to a Catholic hospital where her doctor was supposed to be. He never answered his page, left her in the A&E for some time, and the twins died.

    Now the family is suing the Church, as the Church owns and operates the hospital. And what are the lawyers for the Church arguing? A fetus is NOT a person, it has NO rights, and therefore they cannot be sued.

    It appears the 'rights' of the unborn only exist when it is convenient for certain people. If money is involved, then feck 'em, they are just fetuses.

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    Lord, what an enormous surprise!

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    poster petaljam posted about this on the unite for life thread last evening, there was much spinning from the faithful

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    A broad Church obviously.
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    I feel sorry for her but all churches abandon you when you need them most, ie right after you die and the worms/fire/water consumes you into the great universal recycling bin.

    I agree. Fetuses have no rights. Simple. The mother has the right what to decide, it is her body, she does not have to support another if she does not want to. It is not a complicated situation.
    Hey even sqatters rights dont kick in for 12 years!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsui2 View Post
    Lord, what an enormous surprise!
    Would those lawyers have been excommunicated for saying foetuses were people?

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    No,

    But they would have been sued for negligently representing their clients, which to a lawyer is worse than excommunication!

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    A thread typical of CptSternn: Grossly misleading.

    That is not the position of the Catholic Church.

    The Church is not being sued and did not give that defense - Catholic Health Initiatives, the organisation that runs the hospital did.

    Fetuses aren't people, says Catholic hospital: Does argument contradict church doctrine? - Denver - News - The Latest Word
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    Is anyone surprised, before divorce was legalised in Ireland, the Irish Catholic Church was in effect condoning bigamous marriages by allowing those who had a Church annulment to remarry in Catholic churches while they were still legally married to their first spouse, yet at the same time they were campaigning against the introduction of divorce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limerick Lad View Post
    Is anyone surprised, before divorce was legalised in Ireland, the Irish Catholic Church was in effect condoning bigamous marriages by allowing those who had a Church annulment to remarry in Catholic churches while they were still legally married to their first spouse, yet at the same time they were campaigning against the introduction of divorce.
    No. Has that changed?

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