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    Default How will non working women pay their share of Property Tax

    There have been many discussions regarding the proposed property tax and in a number of them I have asked what I believe to be a pertinent question, that has never been answered by those advocating the tax.

    We now also have the "big stick" of Revenue being waved at people but again, my question has not been adequately answered.. so maybe a dedicated thread might tease the answer out of people.


    It is as simple as this...

    A property tax is to be levied on all property owners, with Revenue making a valuation, and then levying the valuation on the property owner, where should the owner refuse to pay the tax, will give Revenue the right to have the tax paid through a levy on the property owners income.


    However, in many many cases in this country, properties are "jointly owned" (by married couples), and there is only one income coming into the household (either husband or wife)...

    Now, what if one of the joint owners, for example a husband, refuses to pay what he considers, his fellow joint owners portion of the tax ?

    And what then of that joint owner does not have an income of their own with which to pay the tax with ?

    Does a husband for example, have a legal obligation to pay for what is in effect a wife's bill ?

    And the Irish Constitution protects a housewife from being forced from the home for economic reasons ...

    So, if one joint owner doesn't have an income.. how will the tax be levied on them ?
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    This better be sorted out, or else the gamblers holding Seanie Bonds will be extremely annoyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockofcashel View Post
    And the Irish Constitution protects a housewife from being forced from the home for economic reasons ...
    It does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockofcashel View Post
    There have been many discussions regarding the proposed property tax and in a number of them I have asked what I believe to be a pertinent question, that has never been answered by those advocating the tax.

    We now also have the "big stick" of Revenue being waved at people but again, my question has not been adequately answered.. so maybe a dedicated thread might tease the answer out of people.


    It is as simple as this...

    A property tax is to be levied on all property owners, with Revenue making a valuation, and then levying the valuation on the property owner, where should the owner refuse to pay the tax, will give Revenue the right to have the tax paid through a levy on the property owners income.


    However, in many many cases in this country, properties are "jointly owned" (by married couples), and there is only one income coming into the household (either husband or wife)...

    Now, what if one of the joint owners, for example a husband, refuses to pay what he considers, his fellow joint owners portion of the tax ?

    And what then of that joint owner does not have an income of their own with which to pay the tax with ?

    Does a husband for example, have a legal obligation to pay for what is in effect a wife's bill ?

    And the Irish Constitution protects a housewife from being forced from the home for economic reasons ...

    So, if one joint owner doesn't have an income.. how will the tax be levied on them ?
    Dunno what kind of a marriage you have, but we share everything.....

    Not an issue for us, jointly assessed and all that, our choice and we will be paying.

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    Jointly and severally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    Jointly and severally.
    This

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    Jointly and severally.
    what do you mean by this ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan_Murphy View Post
    It does?
    Yep, it does

    41.2.1 In particular, the State recognises that by her life within the home, woman gives to the State a support without which the common good cannot be achieved.

    41.2.2 The State shall, therefore, endeavour to ensure that mothers shall not be obliged by economic necessity to engage in labour to the neglect of their duties in the home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPN View Post
    Jointly and severally.
    This.

    It's not exactly rocket science. You seem to think that separated couples have never come up against this sort of crux before, or that the State/Revenue hasn't.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockofcashel View Post
    what do you mean by this ?
    Consultancy fees around here are higher than the property tax

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