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    Here is a very interesting article on history repeating itself in Russia. 1913 was the last full year of Tsarist Russia before she went head long into war in August the following year. In the article, Alexei Bayer argues that despite the outward signs of wealth in the Russian economy, all is not well within.

    Russia Comes Full Circle in 100 Years | Opinion | The Moscow Times

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    Powerful autocratic leader at the top, bullying the nations on its borders, oppressing ordinary Russians most of whom don't seem to mind, paranoid and suspicious towards the West.... Did Russia change at all? Even during the communist era?

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    Strange thing is....a lot of those descriptions about a declining industrial base, an rule by an unaccountbale, immoral, reckless elite could also be applied to many western countries as well....

    Since the 1990 collapse, Russia has managed to make it's economy more efficient, but it has made it's society more wrecked. It has become like the West. Will they be smart enough to copy the useful ideas from the West, or will they copy the dysfunctional ideas of the West ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    Strange thing is....a lot of those descriptions about a declining industrial base, an rule by an unaccountbale, immoral, reckless elite could also be applied to many western countries as well....

    Since the 1990 collapse, Russia has managed to make it's economy more efficient, but it has made it's society more wrecked. It has become like the West. Will they be smart enough to copy the useful ideas from the West, or will they copy the dysfunctional ideas of the West ???
    But totally dependent on exports of its natural resources, oil and gas in particular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy4571 View Post
    But totally dependent on exports of its natural resources, oil and gas in particular.
    Indeed as it was from the late 1960s and 1970s during the Brezhnev period. Russia today like the USSR then had similar problems, i.e. economic stagnation, creeping corruption, ethnic tensions, demographic decline, increased crackdown on dissent, over dependence on oil and gas exports, inflation as well as declining industrial output/inertia. Russia is papering over the cracks by using its vast oil and gas revenues in the same way that Brezhnev did in the 1970s. When the price fell in the early 1980s, the USSR was in serious trouble.

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    Russia's needs to accept that it is in fact a western nation in the Judaeo-Christian mold and should work closely with rather than against the EU and US. They're more threatened by Islamic extremism than most countries.

    Mind you, I think they're right to be cautious about Syria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphonista View Post
    Russia's needs to accept that it is in fact a western nation in the Judaeo-Christian mold and should work closely with rather than against the EU and US. They're more threatened by Islamic extremism than most countries.

    Mind you, I think they're right to be cautious about Syria.
    I would say they are more cautious about Islamic extremism than the West is. After all, unlike the west, they have never funded and trained Islamic terrorists. Neither do they import oil from Saudi Arabia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partizan View Post
    Indeed as it was from the late 1960s and 1970s during the Brezhnev period. Russia today like the USSR then had similar problems, i.e. economic stagnation, creeping corruption, ethnic tensions, demographic decline, increased crackdown on dissent, over dependence on oil and gas exports, inflation as well as declining industrial output/inertia. Russia is papering over the cracks by using its vast oil and gas revenues in the same way that Brezhnev did in the 1970s. When the price fell in the early 1980s, the USSR was in serious trouble.
    One of the results of the Soviet invasion of Aghanistan in the early 1980s, was that the Saudis decided to pump oil to undermine the USSR economically, by driving down the price of oil.

    That does not work anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphonista View Post
    Russia's needs to accept that it is in fact a western nation in the Judaeo-Christian mold and should work closely with rather than against the EU and US. They're more threatened by Islamic extremism than most countries.

    Mind you, I think they're right to be cautious about Syria.
    They are rational about Syria. The West is compromised.

    Of course one of the consequences is that secularists and Shia in the Middle East will look to Russia as a more trustworthy partner than they will view any Western government. In other words, the Russians will have a better quality of loyalty from any allies. The Russians will not be stuck with the likes of Qatar as an ally. Or Saudi Arabia as an ally, when some of it's citizens are trying to commit terrorism against you.
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