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Thread: The Frontline 14/1/2013 @ 22:25: Croke Park II: who pays?

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    Default The Frontline 14/1/2013 @ 22:25: Croke Park II: who pays?


    Tonight, Pat Kenny has a sudio of public and private sector employees to tease out the future for Croke Park II.
    Today, discussions got underway on the extension of the Croke Park agreement: Croke Park II.

    The Minister for Education Ruairí Quinn said does not want to cut the pay of civil and public servants, but that Government needs to find more savings in the public sector.

    Unions and business representatives met with government officials today to begin negotiations on:
    * pay increments
    * longer working weeks
    * pensions all up for discussion.
    * Government is also considering compulsory redundancies.

    Minister Quinn said savings have to be achieved from less this time round.

    "Increments last year and the year before cost between €190m and €250m over the two years," said Seán Murphy of Chambers Ireland . "Sixty-three percent of all civil servants qualify for increments. It's not a small number. “You're not talking about cutting people's pay - you're talking about pausing it for a number of years as we get more wiggle room to deal with the challenges we face as a State."

    Union leader warns of 18,500 lay-offs if deal fails on new Croke Park - National News - Independent.ie
    Croke Park talks: Govt does not want to cut pay, says Quinn | BreakingNews.ie


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    Clearly the whole emphasis of this programme will be based on the fact that we cannot afford nurses, teachers, Gardaí. . . . But we can afford to spend 6 billion per year more on social welfare than we can on paying the employees of the state.

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    patslatt is going to wet himself.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertW View Post
    Clearly the whole emphasis of this programme will be based on the fact that we cannot afford nurses, teachers, Gardaí. . . . But we can afford to spend 6 billion per year more on social welfare than we can on paying the employees of the state.
    We can bailout private banking pensions funds.....

    We can pay outrageous sums to the private sector for "contracts"....

    we can fund hundreds of quangos......

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonpartyboy View Post
    We can bailout private banking pensions funds.....

    We can pay outrageous sums to the private sector for "contracts"....

    we can fund hundreds of quangos......
    Precisely......it's just another case of turning to the lowest paid in the public sector and stating........"what more are you going to give us?"

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    Stickie Blair Horan in b!tchfest with SWP Paul Murphy?
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    Donnelly talking sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miami Mick View Post
    Hope the Union leader never paid for that hairstyle



    He has taken cut backs personally.
    Ex union leader.
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    If we are lucky, it might be as successful as that attack on Public Sector Grants which are long past their sell-by date.

    Although if I remember correctly, they only cut what, one?

    The CPA has its numerous, numerous flaws.

    Yet it was after all signed during a time of supposed Financial Certainty.

    If Labour/FG (although with particular emphasis on Labour, as if they don't in some way attack this then that's election #66 broken) can at least moderate that glorified gravy train, then maybe they'll retain some credibility before the next election.
    Avarus animus nullo satiatur lucro - Latin Proverb

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    Donnelly hits the nail on the head, suits on both sides many directly responsible for our current predicament deciding what reform means..........bull************************.

    How about we get rid of 25% of senior and middle management ?? In the morning.

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