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    Default Your thoughts of the abortion hearings

    Jerry Buttimer has been praised for his chairing to the Joint Committee on Health and Children hearing this week

    How do else do you think is worth a mention, from within the committee or those presenting to it, both good and bad Life and choice and do you think it will change anything

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    I thought it was good. It has changed my perception on the Seanad.

    It has also made up my mind that the legislation is required.

    So, yes, it was beneficial all round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether View Post
    I thought it was good. It has changed my perception on the Seanad.

    It has also made up my mind that the legislation is required.

    So, yes, it was beneficial all round.
    But it wasn't the Seanad, the Health Committee just borrowed that room.

    It was certainly a worthwhile process, fair dues to all involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeViking View Post
    But it wasn't the Seanad, the Health Committee just borrowed that room.

    It was certainly a worthwhile process, fair dues to all involved.
    Oh.

    I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meriwether View Post
    I thought it was good. It has changed my perception on the Seanad.
    it was a committee not the seanad even if it was in the seanad, expert witnesses appear at the committee all the time, and often interesting, although i think regular committees the politicians get a bit more time to showboat and waffle, buttimer was much stricter but he should get off his high horse really try be a bit more humble as he's a member of a legistlator that failed to legislate on this issue for 20+ years


    how many people watch this live and how many afterwards, think it was good they get the footage up on youtube so quickly usually takes much longer or more awkward to access

    i do think it was party window dressing, a steam release on the issue, but maybe that no such bad thing they were informative but the gov have pretty much already decided what to do
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    "thoughts on the abortion hearings." surely?
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    It was instructive that the non-adversial set up provoked such a valuable exercise, while the only disruption to that was two Senators having a trite barney.
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    Too much opinion. I thought most of the experts I saw based their presentations on their own personal feelings towards abortion rather than their expertise. I didn't see all of it though. Ultimately it was a box ticking exercise for the government.

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    Overall very informative. Held in a civil manner and all had their say.

    I had issues with the selection of the "legal experts on day two" discussed here.
    http://www.politics.ie/forum/current...n-hearing.html

    And thought two Senators let the side down a little.
    http://www.politics.ie/forum/current...side-down.html

    Mr Buttimer had a tough job and deserves some praise for the manner in which he handled the sessions. I do wonder if it would have been better held after legislation was proposed? Was it simply a box ticking exercise for government?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoneen View Post
    Too much opinion. I thought most of the experts I saw based their presentations on their own personal feelings towards abortion rather than their expertise. I didn't see all of it though. Ultimately it was a box ticking exercise for the government.
    You can catch up with the sessions you missed if you wish here ... Committee Playback - Tithe an Oireachtais
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