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Thread: SWP (UK) convenes Kangaroo Court to try one of its own leaders on a rape allegation

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    Default SWP (UK) convenes Kangaroo Court to try one of its own leaders on a rape allegation

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    It seems the UK version of Rich Boy Barrett's outfit is in deep do-do over their "disputes committee" doing an investigation and kangaroo court over one of the organizations leadership being accused by another member of rape. Unsurprisingly, the toy tribunal found their mate on the central committee not guilty (one wonders what in gods name they would have done had they found him guilty - expelled him and called it a day?). This incident was not reported to police, and according to a very senior member who has left over the handling of this issue (second link) there is significant pressure on members not to place their trust in "borgeois institutions" such as police or courts...

    Am I way out in thinking that this is cultish and dangerous behaviour? What are the nature of the links between the Irish SWP (/PBP/Enough Campaign/etc, etc) and their UK comrades? Does the Irish iteration also operate such a "disputes committee"? If so, does it deem itself qualified to investigate and rule on criminal matters within its own ranks?

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    Who funds the SWP ? Who gains the most out of their tactics of hijacking every protest and march and turning them into rent a mob affairs thus neutralising any valid points that the rallies and marches intended to make ? It's a question I've asked since their paper sellers used to try to sell me a copy of the Socialist Worker at 7am every Friday back in the 80's while I was going into work , the seller by the way would then head back to his bed.
    This organisation has done more to damage the left wing in the UK than the Tories ever could ! Trojan horse in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toconn View Post
    Who funds the SWP ? Who gains the most out of their tactics of hijacking every protest and march and turning them into rent a mob affairs thus neutralising any valid points that the rallies and marches intended to make ? It's a question I've asked since their paper sellers used to try to sell me a copy of the Socialist Worker at 7am every Friday back in the 80's while I was going into work , the seller by the way would then head back to his bed.
    This organisation has done more to damage the left wing in the UK than the Tories ever could ! Trojan horse in my opinion.
    The SWP in England is controlled by MI5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned Irishman View Post
    The Socialist Workers Party and the Rape Committee: When organisations become cults The Not So Big Society

    SWP's Tom Walker: Why I am resigning - Communist Party of Great Britain

    It seems the UK version of Rich Boy Barrett's outfit is in deep do-do over their "disputes committee" doing an investigation and kangaroo court over one of the organizations leadership being accused by another member of rape. Unsurprisingly, the toy tribunal found their mate on the central committee not guilty (one wonders what in gods name they would have done had they found him guilty - expelled him and called it a day?). This incident was not reported to police, and according to a very senior member who has left over the handling of this issue (second link) there is significant pressure on members not to place their trust in "borgeois institutions" such as police or courts...

    Am I way out in thinking that this is cultish and dangerous behaviour? What are the nature of the links between the Irish SWP (/PBP/Enough Campaign/etc, etc) and their UK comrades? Does the Irish iteration also operate such a "disputes committee"? If so, does it deem itself qualified to investigate and rule on criminal matters within its own ranks?
    They don't call them the loony left for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toconn View Post
    Who funds the SWP ? Who gains the most out of their tactics of hijacking every protest and march and turning them into rent a mob affairs thus neutralising any valid points that the rallies and marches intended to make ? It's a question I've asked since their paper sellers used to try to sell me a copy of the Socialist Worker at 7am every Friday back in the 80's while I was going into work , the seller by the way would then head back to his bed.
    This organisation has done more to damage the left wing in the UK than the Tories ever could ! Trojan horse in my opinion.
    Hijacking a protest is one thing, although very annoying for those involved I'm sure - hushing up a rape allegation and denying due process is another. I find it incredible that those on the "disputes committee" in this case freely admitted that they where good mates with the accused, and didn't really know the woman in the centre of it at all - how exactly do these people feel competant to investigate and rule upon such a serious allegation, notwithstanding even that they admittedly lack impartiality from the start? Does the SWP feel it is that far above the law?

    I hope the UK Police are all over this for obstruction of justice

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    Irish SWP used to be subordinate to the UK central committee on which it had a representative. Not sure what the relationship is now. Similar to the relationship which the CPI had with the CPGB which was in effect it's controller through people like Greaves.

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    My understanding of the loonies in the SWP is that the Irish party is little more than a branch of the UK organisation, rather than a separate outfit. I wonder what RBB makes of this carry on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned Irishman View Post
    [url=http://notsobigsociety.wordpress.com/2013/01/08/the-socialist-workers-party-and-the-rape-committee-when-organisations-become-cults/]Am I way out in thinking that this is cultish and dangerous behaviour?

    What are the nature of the links between the Irish SWP (/PBP/Enough Campaign/etc, etc) and their UK comrades? Does the Irish iteration also operate such a "disputes committee"? If so, does it deem itself qualified to investigate and rule on criminal matters within its own ranks?
    No you are not way out in thinking that. It is cultish and illegal behaviour.

    I have no reason to believe the Irish organisation does anything similar. I know Richie quite well (our children are in (non private!) school together) and I would be astounded if he would be involved in any sort of nonsense like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borntorum View Post
    My understanding of the loonies in the SWP is that the Irish party is little more than a branch of the UK organisation, rather than a separate outfit. I wonder what RBB makes of this carry on?
    So does that mean that Irish members could in theory be subject to a similar kangaroo court in the event of a criminal internal dispute? That is outrageous, and the gardai need to be all over this if that's the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned Irishman View Post
    So does that mean that Irish members could in theory be subject to a similar kangaroo court in the event of a criminal internal dispute? That is outrageous, and the a gardai need to be all over this if that's the case
    Potentially, yes. The SWP is a very strange organisation, who knows what's on inside

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