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    Default Catholics must now not vote for Sinn Féin or Labour

    Both Eamon Gilmore and Mary-Lou McDonald have said that their parties will be whipped in support of abortion legislation, presumably to include the 'risk of suicide'.

    I'd argue that no Catholic can now continue to vote for either party in good conscience. In fact there is a moral imperative not to do so. I imagine that this will be made plain to Catholics up and down the country too.

    I do not know what heed will be taken of such a position by the Catholic Church by what proportion of those who attend church at all, but it seems to me to be a needless shot in their own feet by the two parties, apparently beholden to their trendy liberal contingents. Why have a whip? Why not do what is routine and normal in the UK - leave it to a free vote of conscience?

    It'll be interesting to see if the Catholic hierarchy are not too cowed by their own self-inflicted position to overcome what seems to have been relative timidity in the last few months and speak out directly against a vote for either party on the basis of their unnecessarily antagonistic decisions on the whip. I would expect them to do so now.

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    You couldn't make it up!

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    Say what you like - they have a right and indeed a moral duty, according to their own code, to say something, if they have the courage to do so. The position is entirely self-inflicted by both those parties. Why did they not just leave it to conscience, a free vote? They have now made it necessary for the Church to make clear that a vote for parties so-whipped is, in effect, a vote for abortion, and they MUST speak up against them.

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    What's a Catholic? I'm an Irishman.
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    What's a Catholic? I'm an Irishman.
    This doesn't apply to you if you are not Catholic. It is not your business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    Both Eamon Gilmore and Mary-Lou McDonald have said that their parties will be whipped in support of abortion legislation, presumably to include the 'risk of suicide'.

    I'd argue that no Catholic can now continue to vote for either party in good conscience. In fact there is a moral imperative not to do so. I imagine that this will be made plain to Catholics up and down the country too.

    I do not know what heed will be taken of such a position by the Catholic Church by what proportion of those who attend church at all, but it seems to me to be a needless shot in their own feet by the two parties, apparently beholden to their trendy liberal contingents. Why have a whip? Why not do what is routine and normal in the UK - leave it to a free vote of conscience?

    It'll be interesting to see if the Catholic hierarchy are not too cowed by their own self-inflicted position to overcome what seems to have been relative timidity in the last few months and speak out directly against a vote for either party on the basis of their unnecessarily antagonistic decisions on the whip. I would expect them to do so now.
    How about divorced Catholics? or Catholics who use Birth Control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    This doesn't apply to you if you are not Catholic. It is not your business.
    Well I'm guessing it only involves resident Catholics. That rules you out too.
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxic avenger View Post
    This doesn't apply to you if you are not Catholic. It is not your business.
    Religiously inspired attacks on the democratic process are everybody's business ......

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    I don't see how a Catholic could vote for any party.
    Faoi mhóid bheith saor

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    Can they not just vote for them then go to confession?
    'Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness'.

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