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    Saudi authorities have announced that a young Sri Lankan woman has been executed for the alleged killing of a child who was in her care in 2005.

    Rizana Nafeek, a domestic worker who was just 17 at the time, has always denied the killing of the four month old boy.

    Questions have been raised about her treatment while in detention and also about the value of her 'confession', because of language tanslation difficulties.

    Saudi has an appalling human rights record and torture is a regular feature of political imprisonment there, to add to the frequency of execution cases.

    This case seems particularly repulsive.

    BBC News - Sri Lankan maid Rizana Nafeek 'executed in Saudi Arabia'
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    This is barbaric behaviour. Saudi Arabia is an appalling regime, one of the worst in the world. If there is one regime in the world that deserves to be overthrown it's the Saudi one. Saudi Arabia is also a base for the export of islamist terror. But the hypocritical western powers will look the other way because they want the black gold and the Saudi sheikhs will play ball. It's disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honecker View Post
    Saudi Arabia is also a base for the export of islamist terror.

    ...although some of the targets have very short memories. The Obama administration has just announced a relaxation of restrictions on Saudis entering US.

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    So chop chop square has been busy again.
    What a horrible regime they have there.
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    Though she was arrested in 2005, she did not have access to legal counsel until after a court in Dawadmi sentenced her to death in 2007. Nafeek has also retracted a confession that she said was made under duress, and says that the baby died in a choking accident while drinking from a bottle.
    In Ireland she would be treated as a minor; in Saudi Arabia she is decapitated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Nelson View Post
    In Ireland she would be treated as a minor; in Saudi Arabia she is decapitated.
    Maybe we have it wrong. The death penalty might help clean this place up and save us a few bob into the bargain. Other than that the Saudis, like all their cousins around the world have nothing to offer but terrorism.
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    If ever a country deserved boycotting Saudi does. Horrific place for women especially and for anyone who doesn't conform to fundamentalism. Even those who don't beleive that climate change is an issue should be supporting alternative energy sources to lessen the power of the Saudis to withstand international sanction.
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    If she did it I have no sympathy with her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honecker View Post
    This is barbaric behaviour. Saudi Arabia is an appalling regime, one of the worst in the world. If there is one regime in the world that deserves to be overthrown it's the Saudi one. Saudi Arabia is also a base for the export of islamist terror. But the hypocritical western powers will look the other way because they want the black gold and the Saudi sheikhs will play ball. It's disgusting.
    It's also not a very equitable society in a lot of ways, it's quite poor compared to the stereotypes of "rich saudis", there is a minority that has loads of cash, but it's not spread around. Enough is spread around to make enough people lazy, but there are poor people who have little possibility of improvement. And there is so little incentive to educate oneself and upskill. One of my Saudi pals muttered at the fact that a guy collecting parking tickets in the airport was Indian. No Saudi would do it (he is annoyed that Saudis are lazy). I especially liked the place we went for lunch, with loads of bloatedely fat Saudi men lying around in private rooms having their third sleep of the day after a lunch that would feed a village. And then, some guy who grumpily accompanied his missus to a clinic shuffling around in pajamas while she walked ten paces behind him, and couldn't walk past the corner near us til we left.

    What i find interesting is the fact that, while some of the poorest countries in the world will have an AWESOME airport to welcome travelers and give a good first impression, King Fahd airport (infrastructure, staff, hygiene, processes, you NAME it) is the worst airport i have ever been in. Makes Colombo's airport look like Schipol, and Jakarta look like Singapore. King Fahd airport was likely cleaned once for the official opening and since then anyone who matters has taken their own jets from their own airfields. And the saudi airlines airplanes... FILTHY!!! As for ground staff and stewardesses, major anger... like their sleep was disturbed for THIS???

    It does have a MASSIVE university for women though just outside the airport (several square km in size I'd say), I am sure it is no coincidence that it is there, as opposed to any other govt owned land. Irish people resident in Saudi, please comment. Oh yeah, it's a uni for women, with the name of a Saudi royal princess as the benefactor, but the pics on the entrance are all of the lads in the family. Becuase you can't have wimmin see depicted in public.

    While you are at it, do a google image search for ikea saudi........ if you haven't seen that one already.

    Saudi........

    BTW, they are building a massive financial services centre in Riyadh (must be loads of irish working on that), the royals do know that they better get their folks doing something with their brains. Must gall them to have to do all their business in Dubai. At elast they can go get plastered there. I kinda feel sorry for regular Saudis though.

    Anyway. the OP was about the Sri Lankan maid being killed. Maids across Asia and the Gulf are recruited from poor backgrounds to work as slaves across all that region. Maids abusing children of employers/owners (the owner bit is an ironic ... joke.. sort of) is not unheard of, inasmuch as you can imagine that poorly educated people with a fair percentgae of them going mad in a foreign country will surely cause a few to buckle and do bad things. So, maybe she did it. I am sure she was maltreated though. Probably flogged regularly. Not an excuse for killing but she was a kid herself. Like KPMG daddy girl. sense of comportment not quite ready yet.

    The whole servant business east of the Euphrates and west of Tokyo is quite disgusting. It's better in Hong Kong and Singapore, and worse in the Gulf, but plenty of abuse everywhere. India takes it all to a new level of course.

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