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    Default Rioting in Belfast

    In light of recent events, this is a short history of rioting in Belfast since the 19th century.

    Belfast Riots, A Short History

    See also Brian Hanley's article on the southern response in 1935 to riots in Belfast.

    July 1935: Remember Belfast, Boycott the Orangemen!

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    Turning working class Protestants against their working class Catholic neighbors was always the tactic used by the powers that be to maintain their position. In the 1930s Depression it was used to prevent a coherent progressive labor movement from emerging by creating paranoia among Protestant workers against Catholics.
    The Protestant Ascendancy in Southern Ireland could not use that tactic to divide Irish nationalists in the late 19th and early 20th centuries but in the North the feudal landlord system survived the upheaval of 1916-1923 until the 1960s. It was key to shoring up the Union and preventing any talking between north and south and creating any links or friendships across the border that could have prevented the Troubles ever happening.
    The great tragedy of Northern Ireland and Paisleyism is that Paisley and his DUP were a grassroots Presbyterian movement that challenged the aristocrats like Captain O'Neill and his ilk but could not find common cause with Catholics. The radical rise of Paisley was a direct parallel to the rise of the SDLP and later SF and the IRA.
    In many ways Paisley was right to challenge the Catholic church which has been exposed a paedo ring - Paisley was talking about indecency and sexuality perversion in the Catholic church decades ago.
    What is overlooked about the Troubles is that Paisley and his followers were in revolt against Stormont and London and the Protestant establishment. As the years passed the Ulster Unionists lost ground slowly but surely until they are now just a shadow of what they once were.
    However unity between working class Protestants and Catholics was not possible because of the successful poisoning of politics in the province by sectarianism.
    The DUP has successfully overthrown the stranglehold of the Ulster Unionists but sectarianism prevents solidarity between working class Protestants and Catholics who have more in common than they actually realize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch 22 View Post
    Turning working class Protestants against their working class Catholic neighbors is always the tactical used by the powers that be to maintain their position.

    The Protestant Ascendancy in Southern Ireland could not use that tactic to divide Irish nationalists.

    In the North the reactionary landlord system survived until the 1960s.

    The great tragedy of Northern Ireland and Paisleyism is that Paisley and his DUP were a grassroots Presbyterian movement that challenged the aristocrats like Captain O'Neill and his ilk but could not find common cause with Catholics.

    In many ways Paisley was right to challenge the Catholic church which has been exposed a paedo ring - Paisley was talking about indecency and sexuality perversion in the Catholic church decades ago.

    However unity between working class Protestants and Catholics was not possible because of the successful poisoning of politics in the province by sectarianism.

    The DUP has successfully overthrown the stranglehold of the Ulster Unionists but sectarianism prevent solidarity between working class Protestants and Catholics who have more in common than they actually realize.
    Paisley the great ' hero ' eh Your great hero was well aware of sex abuse going on in Kincora boys home which a loyalist political ally of his William McGrath wwas the ringleader of. Bollox as usual from Hitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnD66 View Post
    In light of recent events, this is a short history of rioting in Belfast since the 19th century.

    Belfast Riots, A Short History

    See also Brian Hanley's article on the southern response in 1935 to riots in Belfast.

    July 1935: Remember Belfast, Boycott the Orangemen!
    Troll thread, trying to make out that the carry on in Limerick for one night is the equivalent of the sectarianism of the squatters from britain down the centuries ... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch 22 View Post
    Turning working class Protestants against their working class Catholic neighbors was always the tactic used by the powers that be to maintain their position. In the 1930s Depression it was used to prevent a coherent progressive labor movement from emerging by creating paranoia among Protestant workers against Catholics.
    The Protestant Ascendancy in Southern Ireland could not use that tactic to divide Irish nationalists in the late 19th and early 20th centuries but in the North the feudal landlord system survived the upheaval of 1916-1923 until the 1960s. It was key to shoring up the Union and preventing any talking between north and south and creating any links or friendships across the border that could have prevented the Troubles ever happening.
    The great tragedy of Northern Ireland and Paisleyism is that Paisley and his DUP were a grassroots Presbyterian movement that challenged the aristocrats like Captain O'Neill and his ilk but could not find common cause with Catholics. The radical rise of Paisley was a direct parallel to the rise of the SDLP and later SF and the IRA.
    In many ways Paisley was right to challenge the Catholic church which has been exposed a paedo ring - Paisley was talking about indecency and sexuality perversion in the Catholic church decades ago.
    What is overlooked about the Troubles is that Paisley and his followers were in revolt against Stormont and London and the Protestant establishment. As the years passed the Ulster Unionists lost ground slowly but surely until they are now just a shadow of what they once were.
    However unity between working class Protestants and Catholics was not possible because of the successful poisoning of politics in the province by sectarianism.
    The DUP has successfully overthrown the stranglehold of the Ulster Unionists but sectarianism prevents solidarity between working class Protestants and Catholics who have more in common than they actually realize.
    Paisley is just one of a long-line of rabble rousing clerics. There'll be another along soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PO'Neill View Post
    Troll thread, trying to make out that the carry on in Limerick for one night is the equivalent of the sectarianism of the squatters from britain down the centuries ... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    Different articles my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    Paisley is just one of a long-line of rabble rousing clerics. There'll be another along soon.
    Hugh Hanna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Paisley was a rabble rouser but he broke the back of the Unionist establishment and established a grassroots working class unionist political party.
    Catholics were treated like crap but the plight of the working class Protestant was not much better.
    They got jobs that Catholics were denied but only to become slaves to the landlords and the industrialists.
    To keep them in line the Unionist aristocrats could claim that it was creeping communist and Catholic plot to usurp the Union.
    Handy to get working class Protestants to toe the line and accept their lot wasn't it?
    While Paisley wanted to keep the Catholics in their place just as much as the aristocrats in the Ulster Unionist Party did, he also aimed his fire at the big shots at the top and brought down them down.
    Paisley was a hero for working class Protestants not just because his fanatical hatred of Catholicism but because he stood up to the overlords who ruled Northern Ireland.
    For the Unionist establishment Paisley and his followers was as big a treat as the IRA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch 22 View Post
    Paisley was a rabble rouser but he broke the back of the Unionist establishment and established a grassroots working class unionist political party.
    Catholics were treated like crap but the plight of the working class Protestant was not much better.
    They got jobs that Catholics were denied but only to become slaves to the landlords and the industrialists.
    To keep them in line the Unionist aristocrats could claim that it was creeping communist and Catholic plot to usurp the Union.
    Handy to get working class Protestants to toe the line and accept their lot wasn't it?
    While Paisley wanted to keep the Catholics in their place just as much as the aristocrats in the Ulster Unionist Party did, he also aimed his fire at the big shots at the top and brought down them down.
    Paisley was a hero for working class Protestants not just because his fanatical hatred of Catholicism but because he stood up to the overlords who ruled Northern Ireland.
    For the Unionist establishment Paisley and his followers was as big a treat as the IRA.
    A Socialist Zionist - whatever next !!!!!!
    Follow the money in this country and it ALWAYS goes back to state support, be it tax breaks, state contracts and the manipulation of markets for the gombeen class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by picador View Post
    Paisley is just one of a long-line of rabble rousing clerics. There'll be another along soon.
    Hugh Hanna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    And before that the Peep o' Day boys, Penal Laws etc Paisley didn't kick it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PO'Neill View Post
    A Socialist Zionist - whatever next !!!!!!
    What are you talking about you nonsensical dribbling imbecilic droog?

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