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Thread: FG TD accuses his own constituents of criminal conspiracy to defraud the state

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    Default FG TD accuses his own constituents of criminal conspiracy to defraud the state

    Homeowners warned against 'fixing' values - National News - Independent.ie

    HOUSEHOLDERS are already planning to deliberately undervalue their houses to cut down on their property tax bills, a government TD has claimed.

    There are fines of up to 3,000 in property tax legislation for those who knowingly make a false declaration.

    But FG Dublin North TD Alan Farrell said he had learnt that some householders in his constituency were discussing a 'price-fixing' system so that all the people in their street or estate would provide the same deliberately low value to the Revenue.
    Alan - you picked a great platform to announce yourself to the nation.
    Has he reported the specifics to the Gardai? or Revenue?

    SURELY HE HAS A DUTY TO THE STATE,

    Or maybe he is withholding information from the authorities.
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    It may well be true. We are not fond of taxes we think we can avoid but seeing as Revenue is the watchdog not a very wise thing to try to do.
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    Their are still quite a number of people out there with houses on the market who are looking for unrealistically high prices in the current climate. It would be interesting to see what value these people place on their houses for the property tax.

    A mechanism should be put in place whereby it can be revealed to potential buyers of a house what value the seller placed on the home in terms of the property tax. I've no doubt the disparity would be quite interesting.

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    I saw Farrell on Prime Time before Christmas and he was reasonably articulate and able to hold his own. However, I can't help but think that these comments are actually about protecting his auctioneering interests/friends.

    The self-declaration element of the property tax will dampen growth (if any) in house prices which is contrary to the interests of auctioneers and estate agents. Of course he's concerned about it. His former buddies stand to lose a packet from it and I wouldn't be surprised if he still held personal interests in the sector too.

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    He's going to be popular at the next election.

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    Is he the same chap who tried to hire his wife as his publicly paid assistant? And there was some debate about whether the role had been advertised or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Panther View Post
    I saw Farrell on Prime Time before Christmas and he was reasonably articulate and able to hold his own. However, I can't help but think that these comments are actually about protecting his auctioneering interests/friends.

    The self-declaration element of the property tax will dampen growth (if any) in house prices which is contrary to the interests of auctioneers and estate agents. Of course he's concerned about it. His former buddies stand to lose a packet from it and I wouldn't be surprised if he still held personal interests in the sector too.
    Perhaps he is seeing the issue through the eyes of an auctioneer rather than a public representative - based on an expectation that that is where he is headed after the next GE?
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    TDs on about anyone defrauding the state is laughable, how much money in the last few years have TDs repaid the state for claiming to much on expenses.

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    He could be playing on that Irish sense of righteous indignation that someone is gaming the system.
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