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    Default Real Sinn Fein's paper promotes C.I.R.A. Should it be allowed?

    I'm all for freedom of speech and all and I think the paper should be allowed say what they want, as long as they're not advocating killing anyone directly in the paper. The C.I.R.A is an illegal organisation in this country; membership obviously results in prison sentence if you're caught. But Real Sinn Fein, or Republican Sinn Fein as they now call themselves - another split I think - in their paper, Saoirse Nua, have pictures from the C.I.R.A at a training camp on the front page, as well as the C.I.R.A posing with the paper on the back page.

    I purchased their last edition out of curiosity (if Stalinists and Maoists had a paper for 1 50, I'd buy it to see what they were saying, I don't support them) which contained statements from the C.I.R.A in Cork about sorting out drug dealers (can't remember if there were death threats). It was radical to say the least and I was taken back a bit. But I saw their latest edition yesterday and bought it and well, it went even further. The cover, as already mentioned, had the C.I.R.A posing at a sniper camp. The pictures were sent anonymously, so it says. The paper inside was not as radical as the last edition in terms of what was written, but the front cover of the paper was quite mad, when you see it walking down O'Connell street on a news stand:



    Should this paper be allowed? The editor is Joe Lynch, who was charged before of being in the I.R.A. Eight charged with IRA membership - National News - Independent.ie. I think it should be allowed, but I mean, given the editors history and what the paper is promoting, should it be at least warned to not carry statements by the C.I.R.A? I don't get how an illegal organisation in Ireland is allowed carry statements in newspapers edited by men charged with I.R.A membership before? Doesn't seem to make any sense.

    I presume that the editors have been questioned and all before by the Guardai, but still, are some of you happy with this being sold on the streets of Dublin? It goes further than anything by Republican Sinn Fein in Saoirse and the last edition had a letter from a man who openly admitted that violence was the only way to get the Brits out.

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    Give them enough rope and let them hang themselves is my motto for that sort.
    I would imagine a close eye is being kept on those with any connection to this group.
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    muppets. they look like accountants on a paintball weekend.

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    If these guys want to do something against British rule in Ireland then they should target the bad influence of organisations linked to Orange miscreants and show them up for what they are.

    That will bring more change than any armed actions ever will.

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    Young fools thats what they are, there all going to end up in jail or dead, could anyone try and get some sense in to them

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    Quote Originally Posted by commonman View Post
    Young fools thats what they are, there all going to end up in jail or dead, could anyone try and get some sense in to them

    You can lead a horse to water and so on.

    They will have to realise for themselves that armed action at this point will just put things back further.

    What we need is a peaceful but stongly republican pressure group to force organisations like media and government to be more pro unity and more national.

    SF are not up to the job as they have been brow beaten into being ashamed of the fact that they fought for the Irish in the NE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Aphorisms View Post
    But Real Sinn Fein, or Republican Sinn Fein as they now call themselves - another split I think
    I've lost touch in recent times with the byzantine relationships between the fringe republican groups, but "Republican Sinn Fein" was always the name of Ruiari O'Bradaigh's crowd, who split from mainstream SF back in the mid-80s in protest against, IIRC, Adams' SF dropping the policy of abstention for local councils and Dail elections, and SF de facto recognising the legitimacy of the southern state (ssssh, don't tell the likes of johnny365 and The Herren, they've not got past 1972 yet). The armed wing of RSF is the "Continuity" IRA.

    In 1997 there was another split from the Provos in protest at the ceasefires, the "Real" IRA and it's political wing the 32CSM. There were also (allegedly, according to how much of what appears in the newspapers you want to believe) a handful of tiny independent splinter groups, though most of these (again, allegedly) are mainly back within the RIRA fold now.

    Course it doesn't help that every version of the IRA insists it is the One True IRA and just calls itself Oglaigh na hEireann, making it hard to tell them apart sometimes.

    Then there's Eirigi who are seperate again and seem to be opposed to the GFA but peaceful with no armed wing as such, preferring to focus on more orthodox protesting and general agitatin'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Aphorisms View Post
    but I mean, given the editors history and what the paper is promoting, should it be at least warned to not carry statements by the C.I.R.A? I don't get how an illegal organisation in Ireland is allowed carry statements in newspapers edited by men charged with I.R.A membership before? Doesn't seem to make any sense.
    *shrugs*

    Once upon a time, and for many years, every media outlet in the land would attend to the latest statements by a certain Mr P O'Neill. Unless there's actual specific threats against identifiable individuals, or some sort of specified promised future illegal act that subsequently actually happens, I don't think the law can do much. Could be just the harmless ravings of fantasists....and judging by that picture...

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    They probably didn't decommission all the photographs.

    "What Michael Collins accepted in '22,De Valera accepted in'27 and Gerry Adams accepted in '98.Sooner or later they all come around to accepting the Treaty"

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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    muppets. they look like accountants on a paintball weekend.
    Yeah, they are probably taking a break from totting up the profits from grow houses, diesel laundering and various racketeering ventures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by former wesleyan View Post
    They probably didn't decommission all the photographs.

    Is that a GPMG. I'd love to see that numpty shoulder fire that.
    Might knock a bit of cop on into him.
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