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    Default The only way is up - murder rate in Venezuela soars by 12%

    Murder rates in Venezuela has soared this year, up 12% to 21,692 murders according to the Venezuelan Violence Observatory annual report.

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    The country now ha a murder rate of 73 deaths per 100,000 impaired to 63 per 100,000 last year and unlike its neighbours is not involved in a drug war or battle with guerrillas.

    In Caracas the murder rate is 200 deaths per 100,000.

    There has also been a surge in prison riots, random shootings and kidnapping.

    We hear a lot about improvements made by Chavez, but such a surge in crime rates doesn't seem to correspond. Is the surge down to the Govenment or perhaps the recent absence of Chavez owing to his ill health.
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    don't be mentioning things like that, everyone knows that venuzuela is a socialist, peaceful paradise under chavez...lol.

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    Isn't Caracas one of the most dangerous cities on earth (one possibly excludes African and Middle Eastern capitals in the midst of civil war)?

    Venezuela murder rate soars - Telegraph

    According to the Telegraph as its reading of the stats:

    There are more murders in Venezuela than in the United States and the 27 countries of the European Union combined. In Caracas the murder rate is more than 200 per 100,000 inhabitants.

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    Promise me you'll never go to Venezuela Cookie!!!

    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    The fat ************************wit Chavez has only had about 13 years to change things. Give him time!! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy4571 View Post
    The fat ************************wit Chavez has only had about 13 years to change things. Give him time!! LOL
    so in 5 years time there will be over 30,000 murders annually in venezuela...lol. Such a peaceful, socialist paradise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by True Republican View Post
    so in 5 years time there will be over 30,000 murders annually in venezuela...lol. Such a peaceful, socialist paradise.
    Hopefully cancer will have sent him to hell by then.
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    A shockingly high murder rate.

    Al Jazeria have some good reporting on the reasons behind it.

    Why is Venezuela so violent? - Inside Story Americas - Al Jazeera English

    Venezuela crime soars amid declining poverty - Features - Al Jazeera English

    Basically, no one really knows why the murder rate is so high, but the justice system is totally corrupt so that must be a factor.
    Last edited by seabhcan; 31st December 2012 at 03:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    A shockingly high murder rate.

    Al Jazeria have some good reporting on the reasons behind it.

    Why is Venezuela so violent? - Inside Story Americas - Al Jazeera English

    Venezuela crime soars amid declining poverty - Features - Al Jazeera English

    Basically, no one really knows why the murder rate is so high, but the justice system is totally corrupt so that must be a factor.
    Well done Comrade Chavez.

    Between 1999 and 2011, the Bolivarian Republic experienced more than 144,294 murders, according to Paz Activa, a security organisation, and the murder rate has increased more than three-fold since Chavez took office.
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    Poverty dropped from 50.4 per cent in 1998 when Chavez was first elected to 28.5 per cent in 2009, according to the World Bank, an impressive decrease by any standard. Government supporters credit the redistribution of oil wealth - Venezuela has the world's largest petroleum reserves - for reducing poverty.

    Venezuela's Gini coefficient - an index that measures inequality by placing countries on a scale from 0 (perfect equality) to 1 (perfect inequality) - moved from 0.498 in 1999 to 0.412 in 2008, "a drop unparalleled in Latin America", according to the Brookings Institute.

    "The Venezuelan numbers are surprising," Andromachi Tseloni, professor of criminology at Nottingham Trent University in the UK, told Al Jazeera. "Inequality is [normally] highly correlated to murder rates. I haven't seen another country where inequality has dropped sharply and homicides have risen sharply."

    Venezuela is now described as "upper middle income" by the World Bank, but it has a far worse murder rate than Haiti -the poorest country in the western hemisphere.

    So, if people are more equal and generally better off economically, why are murders rising at an alarming rate?
    The murder rate in Venezuela is very interesting. Traditional sociology says it should be declining along with the poverty rate - but uniquely to Venezuela, the murder rate has risen as poverty has declined.

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