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    Default New crackdown on welfare fraud through use of facial recognition software

    The Irish Examiner has an interesting article today on the introduction of facial recognition software by the Department of Social Welfare. Apparently they will be rolling out facial recognition software in all their offices from January as part of identity management and a crackdown on welfare fraud.

    Any new claims will have a photo associated with them and the software will be able to detect whether the same image is already in use elsewhere in the system. Apparently, they will be able to cross check against driving licenses and passports.

    Troubled Facebook software to tackle dole fraud | Irish Examiner

    People might recall this case in 2011
    The fraud, developed over a number of years, involved making claims for
    jobseeker’s allowance, disability allowance and supplementary welfare allowance
    in the names of different identities, mainly members of his family.

    The fraud came to light when staff at the Passport Office received an
    application from Canberra, Australia, for a passport in the name of his younger
    brother.
    Nine-year sentence for social welfare fraud - The Irish Times - Mon, Mar 12, 2012
    http://www.politics.ie/forum/justice...out-right.html

    It seems to me that the introduction of this new software feature is both simple and sensible.

    Do you think this is a good move?

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    its all bluff
    these clowns in government havent the mental capacity to do this
    its about given the appearance of doing something

    i wonder which td's cousins son's company will get the contract ?
    maybe hbap, hes good on the computer
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    I wonder how it will work with identical twins?

    Also, people's apparances change over time. The average passport is for 10 years. If this system has a similar policy on holding photographs, there could be some problems.
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neiphin View Post
    its all bluff
    these clowns in government havent the mental capacity to do this
    its about given the appearance of doing something

    i wonder which td's cousins son's company will get the contract ?
    maybe hbap, hes good on the computer
    Even better at punctuation...
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    I wonder how it will work with identical twins?

    Also, people's apparances change over time. The average passport is for 10 years. If this system has a similar policy on holding photographs, there could be some problems.
    Bio metrics Bitches - that's where it's at. Finger prints, retinal scans, bollock examinations etc.

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    How will this cut down on people who are committing fraud by failing to declare their true means? How will it cut down on error by staff who are working in the Dept itself? How will it cut down on sw fraud which can be attributed to people working and claiming? How will it cut down on fraud based on their failure to declare that they are cohabiting? Are they also planning to install the facial recognition software in each and every post-office?

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    What if you are two-faced?
    Faoi mhóid bheith saor

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopdoingstuff View Post
    What if you are two-faced?
    Then you are likely to have excelled in Irish society and have risen to the top of the political elite and therefore unneeding of welfare. Tis true what they say; it's not just cream that rises to the top.
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopdoingstuff View Post
    What if you are two-faced?
    What if, when you have your photo taken, you're sh1t faced? The scanner wouldn't recognise you. Would you then then have egg on your face?

    Would you face down the welfare officers or would you turn the other cheek?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stopdoingstuff View Post
    What if you are two-faced?
    Then you would not be on social welfare and would have a career in politics or the public service

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