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    Initial reports of an airstrike on a bakery in Syria were met by howls of outrage across the world.

    Reuters reported that:
    Dozens of people were killed in an air strike while queuing for bread in Syria's central Hama province on Sunday, activists said, with some residents giving an initial count of 90 dead..... "When I got there, I could see piles of bodies all over the ground. There were women and children," said Samer al-Hamawi, an activist.... Note1
    Of course, none of this was independently verified as Reuters do not have a team on the ground. Therefore they are relying on reports from what they describe as "activists", namely rebel fighters such as the one quoted above.

    Several days after the attack, the FSA confirmed 23 people died in the attack. All of them were men.

    Now the BBC have even begun to doubt the events with Lebanon correspondent Jim Muir noting that:
    "It is not out of the question that regime jets managed to strike a concentration of rebel fighters..."Note2
    On top of that, initial footage released to media outlets should have raised suspicion immediately. The original raw footage clearly shows that all of the dead and injured are men of fighting age who are either armed or wearing army fatigues. There is no footage to suggest the building is a bakery and at one point (9.42 in the video) a fresh piece of bread is clearly thrown into a pool of blood. A clear attempt to make it appear as if a bakery was targeted.

    The Syrian government meanwhile, has said the attack was a 'terrorist attack' and not carried out by its troops.

    The damage is very light for an alleged airstrike, and as ex-Scotland Yard detective and counter-terrorism officer Charles Shoebridge suggests, was this a rebel arms dump accidental explosion dressed up as an airstrike on civilians to gain sympathy?

    And why did the mass media, despite having very questionable raw footage, continue to peddle the line that this was some sort of massacre against civilians despite no conclusive proof?
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    I thought that the story was that the town was rebel held and that food supplies were scarce, but that a consignment of flour had just got through ?
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    Any chance this could have been Israel rather than Assad? Wouldn't be the first time they intervened in a civil war in a neighbouring country as a pretext to attack Palestinian refugees, as Sabra-Chatilla showed in 1982.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    Initial reports of an airstrike on a bakery in Syria were met by howls of outrage across the world.

    Reuters reported that:


    Of course, none of this was independently verified as Reuters do not have a team on the ground. Therefore they are relying on reports from what they describe as "activists", namely rebel fighters such as the one quoted above.

    Several days after the attack, the FSA confirmed 23 people died in the attack. All of them were men.

    Now the BBC have even begun to doubt the events with Lebanon correspondent Jim Muir noting that:
    On top of that, initial footage released to media outlets should have raised suspicion immediately. The original raw footage clearly shows that all of the dead and injured are men of fighting age who are either armed or wearing army fatigues. There is no footage to suggest the building is a bakery and at one point (9.42 in the video) a fresh piece of bread is clearly thrown into a pool of blood. A clear attempt to make it appear as if a bakery was targeted.

    The Syrian government meanwhile, has said the attack was a 'terrorist attack' and not carried out by its troops.

    The damage is very light for an alleged airstrike, and as ex-Scotland Yard detective and counter-terrorism officer Charles Shoebridge suggests, was this a rebel arms dump accidental explosion dressed up as an airstrike on civilians to gain sympathy?

    And why did the mass media, despite having very questionable raw footage, continue to peddle the line that this was some sort of massacre against civilians despite no conclusive proof?
    One or two bodies blown in two...suicide bomb anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    Any chance this could have been Israel rather than Assad? Wouldn't be the first time they intervened in a civil war in a neighbouring country as a pretext to attack Palestinian refugees, as Sabra-Chatilla showed in 1982.
    Jaysis.

    A thread about whether a massacre of civilians happened at all...and you wonder whether someone else entirely carried out the massacre!

    Sometimes all one can do, despite the alleged carnage, is laugh.

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    Watch the American media for clues. If they are ignoring the doubts BBC and Scotland Yard have flagged then you can surmise this is a false flag to benefit certain countries.

    The present regime is dreadful, but I wouldn't want to be Christian if the other crowd get in.
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    Most of the reporting - particularly by BBC and Sky - come straight out of MI6 HQ. No attempt whatsoever to tell the truth.

    Massacres of Christians and Alawites - sometimes whole families - by the fundementalist 'rebels' (sic) are routinely ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levellers View Post
    Most of the reporting - particularly by BBC and Sky - come straight out of MI6 HQ. No attempt whatsoever to tell the truth.

    Massacres of Christians and Alawites - sometimes whole families - by the fundementalist 'rebels' (sic) are routinely ignored.
    True. I saw an RT report some months ago that most of the formerly largely-Christian town of Homs have been expelled by the rebels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    Any chance this could have been Israel rather than Assad? Wouldn't be the first time they intervened in a civil war in a neighbouring country as a pretext to attack Palestinian refugees, as Sabra-Chatilla showed in 1982.
    You really really lost it!

    Seriously!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    Watch the American media for clues. If they are ignoring the doubts BBC and Scotland Yard have flagged then you can surmise this is a false flag to benefit certain countries.

    The present regime is dreadful, but I wouldn't want to be Christian if the other crowd get in.
    What a despicable racist thing to say!
    The book totally contradicts any post-modern theory claiming a “Palestinian heritage,” or Palestinian nation. https://palestineisraelconflict.word...-palestinians/

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