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    Default How many British soldiers died in the Northern conflict?

    According to the Daily Telegraph the number is 763.

    According to CAIN it's 499 + 6 territorials.

    McKitterick, Kelters, Feeney & Thornton (Lost Lives) tell us that it's 503.

    Who's right, & why the huge discrepancy?
    Poni welwch chwi hynt y gwynt a'r glaw?
    Poni welwch chi'r deri'n ymdaraw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trefor
    According to the Daily Telegraph the number is 763.

    According to CAIN it's 499 + 6 territorials.

    McKitterick, Kelters, Feeney & Thornton (Lost Lives) tell us that it's 503.

    Who's right, & why the huge discrepancy?
    i always thought that Irish men killed nearly a thousand in the 20th century.
    'given the shocking and appalling culture of collusion and illegality' within the RUC, 'one would wonder what other unacceptable practices remain hidden from the public'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the hatchetman
    Quote Originally Posted by Trefor
    According to the Daily Telegraph the number is 763.

    According to CAIN it's 499 + 6 territorials.

    McKitterick, Kelters, Feeney & Thornton (Lost Lives) tell us that it's 503.

    Who's right, & why the huge discrepancy?
    i always thought that Irish men killed nearly a thousand in the 20th century.
    I'm not including RUC, UDR & the like.
    Poni welwch chwi hynt y gwynt a'r glaw?
    Poni welwch chi'r deri'n ymdaraw?

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    Some here would say not enough.

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    not nearly enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trefor
    Who's right, & why the huge discrepancy?
    Just a quick tally. If you add up the ba, ta, udr, rir, raf, rn and ex(ba(udr(rir))) numbers then you get something very close to the 763 figure.

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    So the British Army lost 763 men killed,
    while the IRA lost 276 and according to wikipedia (citing a book called Provisional IRA (1988)) about 8000-10000 IRA members were imprisoned.

    The Troubles was certainly special when realizing that the counter-insurgency forces were more willing to sacrifice their men than the guerilla force fighting them.
    Maybe the main reason the IRA lost where the Vietcong and others succeded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by William
    So the British Army lost 763 men killed,
    while the IRA lost 276 and according to wikipedia (citing a book called Provisional IRA (1988)) about 8000-10000 IRA members were imprisoned.

    The Troubles was certainly special when realizing that the counter-insurgency forces were more willing to sacrifice their men than the guerilla force fighting them.
    Maybe the main reason the IRA lost where the Vietcong and others succeded?
    Possibly, although the fact that they were also riddled with informers right up to high levels did not help. They also had nowhere near as much public support in the north as they would lead people to believe and had very little support in the ROI.
    If you continue to elect idiots in elections, don't be surprised when the result is an idiotic government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William
    So the British Army lost 763 men killed,
    while the IRA lost 276 and according to wikipedia (citing a book called Provisional IRA (1988)) about 8000-10000 IRA members were imprisoned.

    The Troubles was certainly special when realizing that the counter-insurgency forces were more willing to sacrifice their men than the guerilla force fighting them.
    Maybe the main reason the IRA lost where the Vietcong and others succeded?
    Or just an indicator of the efficiency re one against the other.
    Westminister never really gave a toss about the sacks of meat they despatched to here, just as the Falklands were an election prop for Thatcher. The miserable sods currently slithering out of Basra with their tail between their legs aren't really mentioned by anyone.

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    Default Re: How many British soldiers died in the Northern conflict?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trefor
    Quote Originally Posted by the hatchetman
    Quote Originally Posted by Trefor
    According to the Daily Telegraph the number is 763.

    According to CAIN it's 499 + 6 territorials.

    McKitterick, Kelters, Feeney & Thornton (Lost Lives) tell us that it's 503.

    Who's right, & why the huge discrepancy?
    i always thought that Irish men killed nearly a thousand in the 20th century.
    I'm not including RUC, UDR & the like.
    Ummmm, why not? The UDR, and it's sectarianism free successor the RIR, were British Army units. The fact that they were raised in the North doesn't make a difference. They were fully fledged battalions of the British Army and many of them are now winning hearts and minds in Iraq.

    The Telegraph also ran a piece a while back suggesting that there were about two dozen more dead than had previously been believed because the British Army was underreporting deaths in the North. Trying to find it now.,

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