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    One education cut, described as a "relatively minor cut" by Ruairí Quinn, will involve the loss of 200 jobs in the further education (post Leaving Certificate) sector from September 2013.

    One particular college, Ballyfermot College of Further Education, have announced that they will lose 10 of their 80 staff.

    This particular college has produced three Oscar nominees (and one winner) in the area of computer animation.

    This cut will also effect those who use such colleges as a transition between second level and third level.

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    Irish Third level is overmanned and expensive.

    But Ballyfermot CFE is not the destination of enormous largesse and waste.

    First place I would look for cut backs is in the larger universities. They get through enormous volumes of cash, and they still have courses where the graduates are unable to get jobs in Ireland. In particular there is a need to shrink the scale of the faculties of Arts and Law in the larger universities. Civil Engineering and Architecture also need to be scaled back. We also have too many schools of Hotel Management (apart from having too many hotels).

    Apart from that Irish academics are far too well paid in the context of the country's ability to fund it's bills. Across the board there will have to be cutbacks. The likes of Ed Walsh and Moore McDowell pontificating about what needs to be done to rescue the state's finances, when they themslves are part of the problem is too much for most people to stomach. Salaries are too high. they need to drop back.

    These are areas where the students are simply spending time getting degrees for which there are few employment opportunities. Give the money to the PLC sector instead. They are proving to be far more efficient at turning state funding into employable graduates.
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    While third level is certainly over-manned these kind of cuts are being caused by a lack of funding. Until we bring back proper college fees and student loans, our third level will continue to fall behind other countries.
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    10 out of 80

    Maybe cut salary by 12.5% and the staff could be maintained at 80 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
    The likes of Ed Walsh and Moore McDowell pontificating about what needs to be done to rescue the state's finances, when they themslves are part of the problem is too much for most people to stomach.
    In all seriousness you gotta admire the sheer brass neck on Ed Walsh. . . A man who has received nearly 2 million euros in an ongoing public pension since 1997.

    http://www.politics.ie/forum/educati...itlements.html

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    Mr Walsh's neck is made of gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertW View Post
    One education cut, described as a "relatively minor cut" by Ruairí Quinn, will involve the loss of 200 jobs in the further education (post Leaving Certificate) sector from September 2013.

    One particular college, Ballyfermot College of Further Education, have announced that they will lose 10 of their 80 staff.

    This particular college has produced three Oscar nominees (and one winner) in the area of computer animation.

    This cut will also effect those who use such colleges as a transition between second level and third level.
    So 800 hours a week teaching gone then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davoid View Post
    So 800 hours a week teaching gone then?
    Ladies and Gentleman. . . Ignore the ignorant gobshîte troll that is davoid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    While third level is certainly over-manned these kind of cuts are being caused by a lack of funding. Until we bring back proper college fees and student loans, our third level will continue to fall behind other countries.
    Fees and loans are not going to magically make everything better in Irish Universities. The principle issue is that they are stacked to the gills with political appointees, and have become bloated and undirected under the stewardship and ambitions of the same. We had fine Universities and ITs in this country without every single one needing to have a Department of Philo-nomic-science excellence.

    Unfortunately, the egos of those appointed under the Universities Act could not long suffer to only stand and wait. They had to grow, grow, grow, and free fees and compliant government patronage enabled them to do it. However, much of the same dynamics played out across the water in the US, where complicant government was replaced by cheap student loans, but aside from that the result was the same: Universities being treated like industrial assembly lines, and sidelined as places of education, heritage, and above all else places where serious debate and criticism could take place.

    It was a very successful programme. Five years into the greatest financial crisis in history and the silence from the academies is screaming. The whole third level education sector has been sterilised of independent thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertW View Post
    In all seriousness you gotta admire the sheer brass neck on Ed Walsh. . . A man who has received nearly 2 million euros in an ongoing public pension since 1997.

    http://www.politics.ie/forum/educati...itlements.html
    Ed Walsh is an pompous overpaid hypocrite.

    I heard him one day on the George Hook Show and the pomposity was overwhelming.
    Last edited by Analyzer; 18th December 2012 at 10:10 PM.
    Coveney's ambition is the be Ireland's next EU Commissar and Ireland will pay a price as he builds his CV to position himself sufficiently loyal to the nEU empire.

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