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    Default Focus Ireland TV ad.

    I've seen the Focus Ireland ad which shows a child whose hand is being held by an adult. Both are wandering the street at night while other people get ready to celebrate Christmas and the tune is a carol version of the tune of the old Hovis bread ads.

    I'm aware that there are adults who are homeless but I find it hard to believe that there are children sleeping rough because if there were then someone would have told social services about it and the children would then be taken into care, which is obviously far from ideal (probably an understatement) but it's better than sleeping rough.

    Is the ad exaggerating by showing a child being homeless?

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    Homelessness is not just sleeping rough. Bedsits and such, or other. Will look for a better definition.

    There you go

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en...elessness.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by dresden8 View Post
    Homelessness is not just sleeping rough. Bedsits and such, or other. Will look for a better definition.
    At least being in a bedsit involves having a roof over your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcameron View Post
    At least being in a bedsit involves having a roof over your head.
    But it ain't a home. It's not your space, anyway, updated post.

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    The last census showed there were 457 children who were homeless. That is truly shocking and probably under-reported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dresden8 View Post
    It's not your space, anyway, updated post.
    The same can be said for people who live in rented accommodation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dresden8 View Post
    Homelessness is not just sleeping rough. Bedsits and such, or other. Will look for a better definition.

    There you go

    Homelessness
    I think the definition of homelessness is too broad. My understanding has always been that only sleeping rough constitutes homelessness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcameron View Post
    The same can be said for people who live in rented accommodation.
    Only at a very, very long stretch. That space is theirs while they rent it, and have some, if very limited, protections.

    The "homeless" can be moved out of their current accommodation at the drop of a hat. Also they may not be entitled to stay on the premises during the day.

    I'm an amateur here I'll admit, there may be better informed people along shortly. But it's not about just having a roof over your head during 8 hours of darkness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidcameron View Post
    I think the definition of homelessness is too broad. My understanding has always been that only sleeping rough constitutes homelessness.
    Evidently you don't share the official definition.

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    There were 457 children homeless on census night. The Housing Act 1988 provides the legal definition of homelessness. Section 2 of the 1988 Act states that a person should be considered to be homeless if:

    • There is no accommodation available which, in the opinion of the authority, he, together with any other person who normally resides with him or who might reasonably be expected to reside with him, can reasonably occupy or remain in occupation of;
    • He is living in a hospital, county home, night shelter or other such institution, and is so living because he has no accommodation of the kind referred to in paragraph (a), and
    • He cannot provide accommodation from his own resources.


    It includes;

    • People who are sleeping rough.
    • Staying in emergency hostels or refuges.
    • Staying in B&B's on a temporary basis.
    • Staying with family or friends on a temporary basis because they've nowhere else to go and;
    • Staying in squats.


    Introduction to homelessness

    Census finds 457 children homeless - The Irish Times - Thu, Sep 06, 2012

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