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    At a Dec. 11 conference, French interior minister Manuel Valls announced that new government surveillance policies will be aimed at shutting down religious groups including traditionalist Catholics if they show signs of a “religious pathology” that could lead to violence, reported Reuters.

    The conference was held two days after French president Francois Hollande announced the creation of a new agency, the “National Observatory of Secularism,” to observe and promote secularism in the nation.

    The agency will also propose ways to promote secular values in schools. Education minister Vincent Peillon said this education must renew an emphasis on the French values of equality and fraternity.

    Peillon told a French newspaper that secularism “is not about simple tolerance” but is instead about “understanding what is right and being able to distinguish good from evil.”
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    Religious extremism is “an offense to the republic” that the government cannot tolerate, he said.

    As examples of religious extremists, he pointed to creationists, radical Islamists, strongly traditionalist Catholics and ultra-Orthodox Jews “who want to live separately from the modern world,” Reuters reported.
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    I of course support promoting secularism and reducing religious influence over politics and education. But is this really the right way to go about it? Is this not an example of an political party using the state to promote it's own ideology and creating further divisions?

    Of course the move seems primarily targeted towards radical Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_Observer View Post
    Clerical Whispers

    I of course support promoting secularism and reducing religious influence over politics and education. But is this really the right way to go about it? Is this not an example of an political party using the state to promote it's own ideology and creating further divisions?

    Of course the move seems primarily targeted towards radical Islam.

    Sure isn't the poor guy merely excavating 'grave dysfunction' in line with other important 'leaders' valued by Time magazine?
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    If true, it's certainly not pluralist approach, but the source that you you've linked us to is pretty crap. Do you not have something better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicky O Donnell View Post
    If true, it's certainly not pluralist approach, but the source that you you've linked us to is pretty crap. Do you not have something better?
    Here let me google that for you :
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    The Evil ZIONIST Jews Again... boring... I know a bored ZIONIST Jew is very dangerous, they like to murder children... but look at who supports the child murderers? americia... they sponsored (9 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FOR ISRAEL ) the last 59 children the I.D.F. murdered...The children murdered in gaza is ignored... wake up america KARMA IS COMING YOUR WAY... MORN THE CHILDREN OF GAZA AS CHRIST WOULD MORN, YOU MORN YOUR OWN... morn the children of gaza first, if you want forgiveness of your own...Forgive and let go of the hate that is??? ISRAEL.......

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    You know when the French were helping Gadaffi spy on his own people and then were allied with and bombing on behalf of the uprising which featured the involvement of Islamic extremists? Well, was that done with a view towards helping or hindering extremism?

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    This proposal will last until the Saudi Ambassador calls the French interior ministry and issues instructions to reverse policy. The Sunni supremicist regime will not take kindly to anybody anywhere implying that their fairytales are not needed.

    It's all about oil, at this point in time.

    Mind you the market for French sovereign bonds is looking decisively dodgy as well.

    Let's see how much courage the French government have on this issue.
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    That National Observatory might want to pay an inspection visit to the Champs Elysees to see Christmas lights everywhere and hear Silent Night blasting en anglais ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Galton View Post
    That National Observatory might want to pay an inspection visit to the Champs Elysees to see Christmas lights everywhere and hear Silent Night blasting en anglais ....
    Is there is an institute in France to protect French culture for English and American influence ?

    Seems to be doing a lousy job.
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