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    Default YNET News : Third Intifada has been Declared.



    Hebron group: 3rd intifada has begun - Israel News, Ynetnews


    Putting aside the fact that we don't know who these guys are , or what they are saying as it is in Arabic, it is a very sobering occasion indeed, if it proves true. Hebron is a hotbed of settler aggression and a symbolic flashpoint for inter-community violence between the Local Arabs and the illegal immigrants in the Israeli settlements. If a full blown revolution were to erupt in Hebron it would be a very dangerous prospect for the Israeli immigrants that have chosen to live there in contravention of international Law. Recent events there have been indicative of a move towards violent resistance with the recent routing of two Israeli army squads and a general increase in violent incidents throughout the West Bank.

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    Has the Third Intifada begun?

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    It's Israel's own fault. Decades of intransigence, land grabbing, settlements, settler violence, checkpoints have caught up with them. The message all of this has sent to Palestinians is that the diplomatic process doesn't work.

    I wish the freedom fighters well against their Cromwellian overlords.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonsai Experiment View Post
    Putting aside the fact that we don't know who these guys are , or what they are saying as it is in Arabic, it is a very sobering occasion indeed, if it proves true. Hebron is a hotbed of settler aggression and a symbolic flashpoint for inter-community violence between the Local Arabs and the illegal immigrants in the Israeli settlements. If a full blown revolution were to erupt in Hebron it would be a very dangerous prospect for the Israeli immigrants that have chosen to live there in contravention of international Law. Recent events there have been indicative of a move towards violent resistance with the recent routing of two Israeli army squads and a general increase in violent incidents throughout the West Bank.

    IDF restraint policy backfires - Israel Opinion, Ynetnews

    Reuters: IDF soldiers beat our cameramen in Hebron - Israel News, Ynetnews

    Hebron: Soldiers shoot Palestinian who threw firebomb - Israel News, Ynetnews

    Has the Third Intifada begun?
    How do you know its an intifada if you don't know what they are saying? At this stage I'm afraid of standing in front of a camera in case someone mistakes it for a declaration of an Intifada.
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    I hope it isn't. Just serves as a propaganda gift to the colonialist land thieves. They might even use a new intifada to expel Arabs from parts of the West Bank as "security measures".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    It's Israel's own fault. Decades of intransigence, land grabbing, settlements, settler violence, checkpoints have caught up with them. The message all of this has sent to Palestinians is that the diplomatic process doesn't work.

    I wish the freedom fighters well against their Cromwellian overlords.
    You do realise that in the event of renewed hostilities, it is the Palestinians who will suffer higher casualties?

    As things stand with Iron Dome the Palestinian cause cannot be advanced militarily. They hope to have plentiful civilian casualties to stoke the ire of the Ummah and their Western Allies.

    So, by wishing the Palestinians well against their overlords, you are wishing for a high civilian death toll.
    The facts and nothing but the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonsai Experiment View Post

    Has the Third Intifada begun?
    I would say it is indeed kicking off.

    Gaza has done its bit for now and the action moves to the Occupied Territories. Israel has scored an own goal by with-holding funds from the already discredited PA. In the OT the radical youth have taken courage from the brave stand of their cousins in Gaza and Hamas has maintained a comprehensive, well-motivated maquis. They just need to press the button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Druidess View Post
    You do realise that in the event of renewed hostilities, it is the Palestinians who will suffer higher casualties?

    As things stand with Iron Dome the Palestinian cause cannot be advanced militarily. They hope to have plentiful civilian casualties to stoke the ire of the Ummah and their Western Allies.

    So, by wishing the Palestinians well against their overlords, you are wishing for a high civilian death toll.
    The peace process is non-existent and this may finally force Obama to create one or for the EU to apply real pressure including an arms embargo. Our ancestors did not just roll over because of a fear of more casualties. I am instinctively a pacifist but self-defence is different. The IDF is gobbling off more Palestinian property to plan t Jewish settlers. So in reality, the Israelis are already waging war. What the Palestinians in the WB are now doing - if the video is authentic - is therefore an act of self-defence. The Palestinians have learned the hard way that waiting around for the civilised world to ride to the rescue on a white horse isn't going to work. So armed-struggle may be the only answer.

    I would also point out Druidess, that while the Palestinians may not be able to attack Israel, the settlements are another matter entirely.

    This is what Palestine is fighting:

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    Great article in today's Guardian by Chris McGreal which points to the threat to Israel and the US posed by Palestinian recourse to the International Criminal Court ( ICC )

    The US and the British tried to get the Palestinians to renounce the right to accede to the ICC, on the grounds it would complicate a nonexistent peace process. However, it is hard to imagine that Washington and London were not also worried about the implications if the court moved on from accusing African despots and warlords to charging soldiers and officials of a close ally, armed by the west, with war crimes in Gaza.
    But now, the Palestinians have raised the prospect of a different ICC action, over the settlements, following the E1 announcement. The Palestinian foreign minister, Riad Malki, said this week that if Israel pushes ahead with the settlement construction, his government will look to the court for redress.

    "Then we would be able to prosecute Israel for all the war crimes it perpetrated against our people in the past, especially the construction of settlements," he told Voice of Palestine radio. "It all depends on whether Israel would continue with its settlement plan."

    Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said much the same during a visit to Turkey. Israel's colonies in the West Bank are a clear breach of international law under Article 49 of the 1949 Geneva Conventions, which bans on an occupying power from moving its civilian population onto occupied territory – a clause included, in large part, because of Nazi attempts to colonise areas of occupied Poland by planting Germans there.
    The comparison with Nazi Germany is interesting and very apt. During WWII, the Nazi's annexed and colonised parts of Western Poland. Poles were ethnically cleansed from the "Warthegau" and "West Prussia" and replaced with German Colonists by Nazi Gauleiters Artur Greiser and Albert Forster.

    McGreal also correctly refers to the settlements such as Maale Adumim as colonies, since they are in clear breach of the 4th Geneva Conventions which were designed in part to outlaw crimes such as those committed by the Nazi's in Poland.

    International criminal court is a lever for Palestinians on Israeli settlements | Chris McGreal | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk
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    Quote Originally Posted by timhorgan View Post
    I would say it is indeed kicking off.

    Gaza has done its bit for now and the action moves to the Occupied Territories. Israel has scored an own goal by with-holding funds from the already discredited PA. In the OT the radical youth have taken courage from the brave stand of their cousins in Gaza and Hamas has maintained a comprehensive, well-motivated maquis. They just need to press the button.

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    So you're as extatic as Carlos during the Gaza 8 day war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    Great article in today's Guardian Chris McGreal which points to the threat to Israel and the US posed by Palestinian recourse to the International Criminal Court ( ICC )





    The comparison with Nazi Germany is interesting and very apt. During WWII, the Nazi's annexed and colonised parts of Western Poland. Poles were ethnically cleansed from the "Warthegau" and "West Prussia" and replaced with German Colonists by Nazi Gauleiters Artur Greiser and Albert Forster.

    McGreal also correctly refers to the settlements such as Maale Adumimim as colonies, since they are in clear breach of the 4th Geneva Conventions which were designed in part to outlaw crimes such as those committed by the Nazi's in Poland.

    International criminal court is a lever for Palestinians on Israeli settlements | Chris McGreal | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

    The 4th Geneva conventions are irrelevant as the territory is jewish designate by the LoN that preceded the UN, and this is perpetuated by the UN Charter.
    The book totally contradicts any post-modern theory claiming a “Palestinian heritage,” or Palestinian nation. https://palestineisraelconflict.word...-palestinians/

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