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    Family guilty of forced labour - The Irish Times - Fri, Dec 14, 2012

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    The defendants benefited financially and we say handsomely in their legal exploits and enterprise Mr Quinlan told the jury during the trial.
    The men were forced to work and exploited for financial gain and the defendants had a very cheap labour workforce for their businesses.
    Throughout the Connors family are described as 'Irish Travellers' despite the fact that they are all English.

    If in fact any of them are Irish born we can only assume that this disgraceful behaviour is caused by too much contact with English people. After all the above sounds like the British Empire on trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happytuesdays View Post
    Family guilty of forced labour - The Irish Times - Fri, Dec 14, 2012



    Throughout the Connors family are described as 'Irish Travellers' despite the fact that they are all English.

    If in fact any of them are Irish born we can only assume that this disgraceful behaviour is caused by too much contact with English people. After all the above sounds like the British Empire on trial.
    So on the one hand you state with certainty than none of them are Irish, and then in the next sentence leave open the possibility that they might be Irish.

    So you've started a thread without knowing if its premise is correct or not?

    Not to mention the irony of a thread decrying anti-racism ending with a rounding anti-Englishness.

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    They are Irish travellers, which governs how many of them operate, but then you are sort of satirising an open borders leftwinger.

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    Or while citing from an Irish media source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happytuesdays View Post
    Family guilty of forced labour - The Irish Times - Fri, Dec 14, 2012



    Throughout the Connors family are described as 'Irish Travellers' despite the fact that they are all English.

    If in fact any of them are Irish born we can only assume that this disgraceful behaviour is caused by too much contact with English people. After all the above sounds like the British Empire on trial.
    Wherever they were born their ethnic identity is Irish Traveller. They claimed that in their defence, and it is accepted by the "Irish Traveller Movement in Britain" - Travellers reeling as convictions on four members reverberate through community - The Irish Times - Sat, Jul 14, 2012

    The scariest bit is that report is here - "Even the Irish Traveller Movement in Britain, which condemned the treatment of the victims, continues to insist that the presentation of the relationship between Travellers and the outsiders who work with them has been simplistic.

    “We really need to look closer at the nature of these relationships. This is not a cut-and-dried issue and really needs research. Workmen have always been part of the Traveller economy. In our experience this is a mutual agreement,” said the Traveller movement’s Yvonne McNamara."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Mr Grouser View Post
    Wherever they were born their ethnic identity is Irish Traveller. They claimed that in their defence, and it is accepted by the "Irish Traveller Movement in Britain"
    Yeah, it confers ethnic minority status on them which can be useful. Scumbags. One thing i did notice in the UK is that some brits can't tell the difference between a normal irish accent & a tinker one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob3344 View Post
    Yeah, it confers ethnic minority status on them which can be useful. Scumbags. One thing i did notice in the UK is that some brits can't tell the difference between a normal irish accent & a tinker one.
    It happened to my missus a few years ago. Our area was swamped for a few months with travellers who were not endearing themselves to the local populous with their criminality. My missus has a delightful brogue yet was mistaken for a skanging traveller by a shop owner. I soon put her right but the behaviour of these Irish criminals was giving a bad rep to all the decent Irish who live in our area.

    Not right, I agree. But they are still Irish and they get decent folk a bad name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A view from England View Post
    It happened to my missus a few years ago. Our area was swamped for a few months with travellers who were not endearing themselves to the local populous with their criminality. My missus has a delightful brogue yet was mistaken for a skanging traveller by a shop owner. I soon put her right but the behaviour of these Irish criminals was giving a bad rep to all the decent Irish who live in our area.

    Not right, I agree. But they are still Irish and they get decent folk a bad name.
    Happened to me too, was staying in a midlands town for a few months, was wondering why the locals seemed terrified of me, turned out a bunch of tinkers had run amok a short time before & all irish were tarred with the same brush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob3344 View Post
    ... One thing i did notice in the UK is that some brits can't tell the difference between a normal irish accent & a tinker one.
    from the "Culture and Customs" page of the Pavee Ceilidh Website - ~ The Pavee Ceilidh Website: Gypsy and Traveller History Month ~ -
    "... Not all Travellers speak with an Irish accent. Many Irish Travellers in the UK have been born in Britain and some now speak with British regional accents."

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    Quote Originally Posted by livingstone View Post
    So on the one hand you state with certainty than none of them are Irish, and then in the next sentence leave open the possibility that they might be Irish.So you've started a thread without knowing if its premise is correct or not?Not to mention the irony of a thread decrying anti-racism ending with a rounding anti-Englishness.
    Thats' nothing, have a look at these two gems from the same poster earlier today;
    Multiculturalism in England presupposes that there was a culture there to begin with.
    And when another poster pointed out just some of the cultural contributions the english have made to the world we got in reply:
    They are scum and should be ALMOST exterminated.
    Offensive much?
    “There are probably more annoying things than being hectored about African development by a wealthy Irish rock star in a cowboy hat, but I can’t think of one at the moment.”

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