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Thread: This day in Irish History 13 December 1862 - The Irish Brigade at Fredericksburg

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    Default This day in Irish History 13 December 1862 - The Irish Brigade at Fredericksburg

    This day is a famous and tragic day in the history of Ireland and the Irish in America

    - 150 years ago today

    Irishmen fought Irishmen in the bloody battle for Fredericksburg

    The Irish Brigade went into battle at Fredericksburg with only one of their famed green banners. The others, torn from battle, had been sent back to New York, and they were awaiting new ones. It was unthinkable for the men of the Irish Brigade to go into battle without green, so they wore sprigs of boxwood in their caps. After Chaplain Ouellet had blessed each man in the 69th, Colonel Robert Nugent , commander of the 69th, placed a sprig of boxwood in the Chaplain’s hat, and told his men, to their intense amusement, “I’ll make an Irishman out of the Father this day!”.

    Going into the battle the Irish Brigade mustered approximately 1700 men. After the slaughter 263 were still fit for duty. The video is correct that many of the Georgians confronting the Irish Brigade were Irish immigrants, a fact that increases the tragedy of the day.

    The Irish Brigade at Fredericksburg | The American Catholic

    See the video clip from the film Gods and Generals

    The conduct of the Union Generals was like a precursor of WWI!

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    I wonder did Spielberg in his Oscar nominated movie 'Lincoln' mention the fact that basically half starved asylum seekers from the old world were being used as cannon fodder by the yankees. They would have had more dignity starving to death in their hovels back on the old sod.
    ..the Irish nation can become other than white, by privileging the voices of the racialised and subverting state immigration but also integration policies. – Ronit Lentin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Telemachus View Post
    They would have had more dignity starving to death in their hovels back on the old sod.
    Contrary to a million movies , there is no glory in War.

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    Instead of marchin' lootin' king day, it should be thank whitey day. Obama never said thanks either.
    Last edited by DanBreen; 14th December 2012 at 12:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post
    Quick question....Are you the user formerly known as Catalpa....and if so why the name change ?
    "Yawn , am I alive yet ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Quick question....Are you the user formerly known as Catalpa....and if so why the name change ?
    No I was never Catalpa

    I was never on this Site before

    - & I was never in the IRA

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    I'll call my Solicitor...

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    The role of the Irish in 19th America was described as being to
    "Fight your wars, build your railways, kill your Indians"

    Sorry, do not have a link.
    Last edited by Thady Quill; 14th December 2012 at 01:30 AM. Reason: Add word

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    The Irish contributed generously to the 600K+ dead suffered by the North and South in the Civil War. Along with the Irish brigades documented here is the less well known story of the Scots-Irish in the war. They fought in disproportionate numbers on both sides. Many Scots-Irish in Appalachian counties, which were generally poor with few or no slaves, refused to support the Confederacy even after Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia and Alabama, where they lived, seceded. The result was that for years after the war these Appalachian areas were subect to violent feuds between neighboring families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patwmcgee View Post
    The Irish contributed generously to the 600K+ dead suffered by the North and South in the Civil War. Along with the Irish brigades documented here is the less well known story of the Scots-Irish in the war. They fought in disproportionate numbers on both sides. Many Scots-Irish in Appalachian counties, which were generally poor with few or no slaves, refused to support the Confederacy even after Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina, Georgia and Alabama, where they lived, seceded. The result was that for years after the war these Appalachian areas were subect to violent feuds between neighboring families.
    The Hatfield & McCoy feud.

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