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    The north is in uproar. Having confined their activities to destroying their own dung pits unionists have now moved to nationalist areas to foment violence. And what is the view of FF on all this? They have kept silent. They have no opinion. That is because they do not care. When the DUP accused the government of FF in the late '60's of giving birth to the provisionals Michael Martin was very quickly out of the blocks to defend his party's position appearing on the media in the north to ensure that the message got through. But now they are sitting idly by and watching their fellow Irish being attacked by the mob. So much for their move north? Were are the statements from Mount Street. Were are the interviews on northern media? Were are their northern representatives who walked Matt Baggott through Crossmaglen. Have FF ran away? So much for the Republican Party. It is clear that their republicanism is a 26 county republicanism. They have became FG.
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    I think the issue is regarded as resolved and therefore interest is consequently less - flag row or otherwise. Anyway the Establishment have more important things to worry about, not including their Federal Europe panacea they wrongly believe is the answer when in fact it half the cause of our economic ills. The United Europe sirens have taken over from the United Ireland nymphs.
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    Do you mean you actually believed that Fianna Fáil gave a stuff about the North other than in a purely tokenistic way of shoring up their "green" credentials.

    All that guff about organising in the North was done with more of an eye on protecting their flank from SF in the South.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtyisBack View Post
    The north is in uproar. Having confined their activities to destroying their own dung pits unionists have now moved to nationalist areas to foment violence. And what is the view of FF on all this? They have kept silent. They have no opinion. That is because they do not care. When the DUP accused the government of FF in the late '60's of giving birth to the provisionals Michael Martin was very quickly out of the blocks to defend his party's position appearing on the media in the north to ensure that the message got through. But now they are sitting idly by and watching their fellow Irish being attacked by the mob. So much for their move north? Were are the statements from Mount Street. Were are the interviews on northern media? Were are their northern representatives who walked Matt Baggott through Crossmaglen. Have FF ran away? So much for the Republican Party. It is clear that their republicanism is a 26 county republicanism. They have became FG.

    The 'leadership' of Fianna Fail abandoned the 6 counties when they entered the Free state Government in 1932. A lot of the membership and supporters of Fianna Fail never abandoned the North but Section 31 and a pro-partition press has gradually changed the mentality of FF supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    Do you mean you actually believed that Fianna Fáil gave a stuff about the North other than in a purely tokenistic way of shoring up their "green" credentials.

    All that guff about organising in the North was done with more of an eye on protecting their flank from SF in the South.
    Ah ha ha ha ha.

    FG hack on NI thread.

    Thankfully one of our two main parties wasn't " sick of the f*****g peace process".

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    Anyway the Establishment have more important things to worry about,

    Where is their lectures and concern about democracy. If the nationalists of the 6 counties must live in a UK desired by the minority of this Island would it be too much to ask for it to be at least democratic in appearance if not in fact. Where are the voices of the 26 counties politicians on this continued imposition upon Northern Nationalists rights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewGoldDream View Post
    Ah ha ha ha ha.

    FG hack on NI thread.

    Thankfully one of our two main parties wasn't " sick of the f*****g peace process".

    Sorry. Have you something useful to contribute apart from the usual childish rubbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewGoldDream View Post
    Ah ha ha ha ha.

    FG hack on NI thread.

    Thankfully one of our two main parties wasn't " sick of the f*****g peace process".
    Instead of attacking contributors in an attempted whataboutery deflect tactic beloved by unionists could you address the question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    Sorry. Have you something useful to contribute apart from the usual childish rubbish.
    The man who doesn't understand what the word "facetious" means and is here raving about protecting flanks is criticising others for their contributions!

    FG hasn't given a hoot about the North for a long time. You are embarrassing yourself skulking around this thread. Bruton's only mistake was that he let the cat out of the bag. As for FF and NI, frankly not a huge amount they can do at present, their contributions would be as useful as the SDLP attacking our Budget. If they wrapped the green flag around the party right now I have no doubt people would be complaining about it being a cheap shot.

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    Apart from once again proposing a merger with the SDLP, how can any Southern party get involved in Northern politics - were they to do so, the three-way split would only serve to artificially increase the extent of Unionist majorities in Stormont and NI Westminster constituencies?
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