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Thread: Do some employers not want to employ the current unemployed in Ireland?

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    Default Do some employers not want to employ the current unemployed in Ireland?

    Just read a law advise column on the Limerick Post. In this article an Individual who owns a nursing home queries the legality of employing foreign workers. The individual admits to 'recruiting overseas quite a lot'. In this age of mass unemployment in Ireland should more restrictions be placed on recruiting from outside the EU? Surely we have plenty of individuals in this State who would be willing to take up employment in nursing homes? Is it a case that some employers want these workers so they can exploit them?

    Article is on the current Limerick post digital edition.

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    Exploit, quite likely and be more compliant also with little knowledge of local labour laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stakerwallace View Post
    Exploit, quite likely and be more compliant also with little knowledge of local labour laws.
    It is not only foreign workers who get exploited unfortunatly. Where I work there are a lot of relief workers used. At times they are expected to breach work time conditions, not long enough between shifts, working 24 hours without a break etc. Problem is if they complain, they will not be offered any hours. This is typical of labour market reform which is in fact a race to the bottom in relation to pay and conditions

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    The bulk of people on the dole are construction workers and from related professions. I can perfectly believe there is a shortage of Irish people willing to work in nursing homes.

    There is also a great shortage of software developers. There just aren't enough in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickterry View Post
    It is not only foreign workers who get exploited unfortunatly. Where I work there are a lot of relief workers used. At times they are expected to breach work time conditions, not long enough between shifts, working 24 hours without a break etc. Problem is if they complain, they will not be offered any hours. This is typical of labour market reform which is in fact a race to the bottom in relation to pay and conditions
    I would quite agree and the labour laws are merely laughed at, in fact in my experience a lot of smaller employers haven't a clue what they are and more to the point don't want to know. Exploitation is rife and getting worse with the general attitude being that if you don't want the job then there are plenty who do. No wonder the youth are leaving in droves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    The bulk of people on the dole are construction workers and from related professions. I can perfectly believe there is a shortage of Irish people willing to work in nursing homes.

    There is also a great shortage of software developers. There just aren't enough in the country.
    There was no shortage of workers in Nursing home before the Celtic tiger boom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realistic1 View Post
    Just read a law advise column on the Limerick Post. In this article an Individual who owns a nursing home queries the legality of employing foreign workers. The individual admits to 'recruiting overseas quite a lot'. In this age of mass unemployment in Ireland should more restrictions be placed on recruiting from outside the EU? Surely we have plenty of individuals in this State who would be willing to take up employment in nursing homes? Is it a case that some employers want these workers so they can exploit them?

    Article is on the current Limerick post digital edition.

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    maybe the government has made it so expensive to employ someone all the while also making it disadvantageous for certain people on welfare to come off welfare for new work that the only alternative is to recruit from abroad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by seabhcan View Post
    The bulk of people on the dole are construction workers and from related professions. I can perfectly believe there is a shortage of Irish people willing to work in nursing homes.

    There is also a great shortage of software developers. There just aren't enough in the country.
    In any closed free labour market wages would increase in areas of demand, people would either retrain or come though the education system & move into the gaps over time. What we have now is an advanced neo-liberal or right-liberal model of economics & at the same time liers and spoofers in the recruiting areas crying about skills shortages because they cant get cheaper third world labour fast enough. The vision is of a high mobile global workforce, forget about the local 15% unemployed, actually encourage them to emigrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realistic1 View Post
    There was no shortage of workers in Nursing home before the Celtic tiger boom.
    How many people resided in nursing homes in 1995 compared to today?
    I don't know, but would believe it has substantially increased, hence substantially increasing number of workers required.
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    This will be an unwelcome comment here but if the choice was employ a Polish person or an Irish person in a lower paid job for the same wage I would employ the Polish person. My experience is they have a better attitude both in terms of the amount of work they do and the attitude with which they do it. They are enthusiastic, keen and always willing to please and even find ways of doing the job better.

    Before the opening of our borders to the new EU states while we had office cleaners (Irish) my office was never actually cleaned properly. Once the cleaners went non Irish they actually cleaned the office properly and took pride in their work.

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