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Thread: Carbon Tax to add at least 2.50euro to bag of coal

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    Default Carbon Tax to add at least 2.50euro to bag of coal

    Carbon Tax
    The carbon tax will be extended to solid fuels on a phased basis. A rate of €10 per tonne will be applied with effect from 1 May 2013 and at a rate of €20 per tonne from 1 May 2014.
    Note its per tonne of Carbon and not per tonne of coal/briquettes

    So according to a Fuel Merchant who was just on Liveline he calculates that this will add 2.50euro to the bag of 40kg coal and 50cents on a bale of briquettes.

    So a household that goes thru 2 bags of coal a week will pay an extra 260euro a year.

    This is on top of thw weekly fuel allowances being cut.

    Well done Labour once again hitting the poor!

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    and electricity allowance for elderly cut yesterday!

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    Ah yes, nobody accounts for the inflationary effects of the budget. Inflation is another tax and transfer of wealth from the poorest to those closest the credit spigot of central banks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKELLY View Post
    Note its per tonne of Carbon and not per tonne of coal/briquettes

    So according to a Fuel Merchant who was just on Liveline he calculates that this will add 2.50euro to the bag of 40kg coal and 50cents on a bale of briquettes.

    So a household that goes thru 2 bags of coal a week will pay an extra 260euro a year.

    This is on top of thw weekly fuel allowances being cut.

    Well done Labour once again hitting the poor!
    Sure the poor can go and buy one of those efficient stoves that are all the rage. Forgot they won't be able to. That's the problem with poverty, it rules out options. Prostitution will increase. Well done Labour and Fine Gael.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKELLY View Post
    So a household that goes thru 2 bags of coal a week will pay an extra 260euro a year.
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    2 bags of coal a week? Even in July and August? FFS Skelly, there's the makings of a point in there without departing from reality.

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    His numbers are bang on I think.

    1 tonne coal (anthracite) x 2.84 tonne CO2/tonne coal x €20 = €56.80 per 1000Kg.

    Or €2.27 per 40K bag.

    Then add VAT at 13.5% = €2.58 per bag extra.
    Redacted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooperate for freedom View Post
    Sure the poor can go and buy one of those efficient stoves that are all the rage. Forgot they won't be able to. That's the problem with poverty, it rules out options. Prostitution will increase. Well done Labour and Fine Gael.
    SEAI - About the Better Energy Warmer Homes scheme

    DO I HAVE TO PAY TO GET THE WORK DONE UNDER THIS SCHEME?
    No, BEWH measures are installed at no cost to the recipient household.


    Or, they could go on the game as you suggest...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimpanzee View Post
    2 bags of coal a week? Even in July and August? FFS Skelly, there's the makings of a point in there without departing from reality.
    well i know people who have no heating in there house so they rely on the fireplace to heat the back boiler.

    I know others who have an agga to heat the house in the same fashion.

    These people cannot afford to install oil fired heating.

    And the poor use a disproportionate amount of low cost fuel.

    Either way this is going to hurt the least well off of which the Labour Party are supposedly protecting.

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    What about the Polar Bears guys?

    Its all for the best.
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    Imagine living in a Mc Mansion in the country.
    No luxury of natural gas piped into the house.
    Huge area to heat.
    Turf cutting ban.
    Woodlands cut down over the centuries and not replaced, leaving no firewood source.
    Coal prices making it uneconomical.
    Leaving you with only expensive oil heating.
    What a ruse by the Revenue.

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