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    What do people make of the cut in jobseekers benefit eligibility? JSB is paid irrespective of means to those who have lost their jobs, whereas jobseekers allowance is means tested and kicks in afterwards.

    This cut means that anyone who has been working, who has saved a little, will be cut off from assistance sooner than is the case today. Meanwhile the person who has never worked, and never saved a penny, will go on being paid their jobseekers allowance.

    This is another attack on anyone in this society who tries to act responsibly and saves a little for their future. They are being penalised for being good citizens.

    The progressive European approach to this is the reverse - anyone who has lost their job receives a percentage of their previous salary, which tapers downwards the longer they are out of work. Eventually, all benefits are stopped. You're rewarded for contributing to society, unlike here where the benefits seem to increase the less you contribute.

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    I agree, morally it makes no sense. What is the limit you can have under the means test rules for JA?

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    Should have cut the dole for long term unemployed,over 5 years,to 100 a week,that'd clear the nest.
    The single mother on the news earlier complaining about her benefits being cut was laughable.Get a job if you dont like it

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    Means test limit is EUR 20,000 savings - after which you are paid less

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmmm View Post
    What do people make of the cut in jobseekers benefit eligibility? JSB is paid irrespective of means to those who have lost their jobs, whereas jobseekers allowance is means tested and kicks in afterwards.

    This cut means that anyone who has been working, who has saved a little, will be cut off from assistance sooner than is the case today. Meanwhile the person who has never worked, and never saved a penny, will go on being paid their jobseekers allowance.

    This is another attack on anyone in this society who tries to act responsibly and saves a little for their future. They are being penalised for being good citizens.

    The progressive European approach to this is the reverse - anyone who has lost their job receives a percentage of their previous salary, which tapers downwards the longer they are out of work. Eventually, all benefits are stopped. You're rewarded for contributing to society, unlike here where the benefits seem to increase the less you contribute.


    See when you've never worked your classed as "vunerable" so you must be protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Means test limit is EUR 20,000 savings - after which you are paid less

    cYp
    Thanks for the info cyp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberianpan View Post
    Means test limit is EUR 20,000 savings - after which you are paid less

    cYp

    Here is the full means test rules
    Means test for Jobseeker's Allowance

    Code:
    Capital	Reduction Weekly means assessed
    First €20,000	Nil
    Next €10,000	€1 per €1,000
    Next €10,000	€2 per €1,000
    Balance (€40,000 +)	€4 per €1,000

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    What's even more sickening is that you'll have to pay an extra 250 euro in PRSI next year for the privilege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmmm View Post
    What do people make of the cut in jobseekers benefit eligibility? JSB is paid irrespective of means to those who have lost their jobs, whereas jobseekers allowance is means tested and kicks in afterwards.

    This cut means that anyone who has been working, who has saved a little, will be cut off from assistance sooner than is the case today. Meanwhile the person who has never worked, and never saved a penny, will go on being paid their jobseekers allowance.

    This is another attack on anyone in this society who tries to act responsibly and saves a little for their future. They are being penalised for being good citizens.

    The progressive European approach to this is the reverse - anyone who has lost their job receives a percentage of their previous salary, which tapers downwards the longer they are out of work. Eventually, all benefits are stopped. You're rewarded for contributing to society, unlike here where the benefits seem to increase the less you contribute.
    Always people who try get targeted, sit on your hole and do ************************ all and you'll be looked after.....

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    It means anybody who was working all their life and who receives redundancy will not qualify for any sw payment after nine months.

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