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    Default 324th anniversary of 'Lundy Day'

    THE 324th anniversary of the Shutting of Londonderry’s Gates against the advancing Jacobite forces in December 1688 took place peacefully in the Maiden City on Saturday.

    The cold conditions failed to have any impact on the day’s main attraction, the burning of the effigy of the notorious traitor Lundy, who, as ever, perished in a swathe of flames at the conclusion of the proceedings.

    Spirits were high, as Londonderry prepares to begin its term as the first ever UK City of Culture next month.

    If Saturday’s spectacle and the general atmosphere was anything to go by, 2013 will be special as all citizens of the historic city join together to celebrate this unique opportunity.

    As Governor General of the Apprentice Boys, Jim Brownlee, told the News Letter: “Without the Shutting of the Gates, there would have been no Siege, no Glorious Revolution, no William III and no parliamentary democracy as we know it now, that grew and spread across Europe and replaced autocratic monarchies.

    “It is arguable that without the Siege the French or American Revolutions would never have happened and it showed that 30,000 destitute and starving people could hold out against a king’s army. It was a true example of people power – of how tyranny could be deposed.”

    More than 1,000 band members and between 1,500 and 2,000 members of the Apprentice Boys took part in Saturday’s historical and cultural events, with marchers attending from as far away as London and the Republic.
    Gallery: Culture capital enjoys Lundy

    Generally the first Saturday in December - commemorating the 7th December (OS*) anniversary of the Apprentice Boys’ Shutting of the Gates. *Old style calandar.

    The Apprentice Boys of Derry Commemorative events begin at midnight Friday, on the eve of the next day’s commemoration, with the firing of a cannon. 1 shot and then 3 shots symbolises the Thirteen Apprentice Boys who shut the gates against the advancing armies of King James.
    Siege Heroes Trail 2012: Commemorations

    At the centenary celebrations in 1788-9, the people of Derry wore Orange ribbons (just as people in England did at the time when celebrating the Glorious Revolution) and a red or crimson flag was flown at the Cathedral. The Roman Catholic clergy joined in the celebrations and "vied with Protestants in expressing, by every possible mark, their sense of the blessings secured to them by our happy Constitution".
    The Siege of Derry

    The Siege proper lasted for 105 days but the citizens and the garrison were pent up by the presence of first the Earl of Antrim`s forces from 7 December 1688, and then by King James` forces, to 31 July 1689 a total of 236 days.
    Some facts about the Siege of Londonderry

    I haven't been to the Shutting of the Gates/Lundy Day in many a year but from all accounts it has turned into quite a pageant. i have however toured the walls on a number of occasions the most recent was with a cross community group, our guide for the day turned out to be a local SF councilor. TBF he was reasonably informant and eloquent but i had a little chuckle when he went into brit imperialistic overdrive as we overlooked the bogside! somewhat tragic that a historical guide didn't mention roaring meg while standing beside her!! 'Roaring Meg' comes back home - Local - Derry Journal

    someday we will have a shared future, perhaps we should start with a shared history!
    Nec Aspera Terrent..Is Tuaisceart-Éireannach mé. Má tá meas agat ar mo chultúr, beidh meas agam ar do chultúr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by between the bridges View Post
    r most recent was with a cross community group, our guide for the day turned out to be a local SF councilor. TBF he was reasonably informant
    You did that deliberately, didn't you?

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    Huge celebrations to mark the anniversary in Cork tonight

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    Meanwhile an angry mob is assembling illegally outside Belfast City Hall, seeking to intimidate any would-be traitors inside.

    Happy Lundy Day indeed!
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    A get together isn't complete unless there is the burning of an effigy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricket View Post
    Huge celebrations to mark the anniversary in Cork tonight
    Ho, brother Teague, dost hear de decree,
    Lilliburlero, bullen a la,
    Dat we shall have a new deputy?
    Lilliburlero, bullen a la.

    Brendan Behan had it that the apprentice Boys were Irish speakers and the above chorus would read:

    Lili ba léir é, ba linn an lá...

    Translation: The Lily is triumphant, the day is ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lain2016 View Post
    Ho, brother Teague, dost hear de decree,
    Lilliburlero, bullen a la,
    Dat we shall have a new deputy?
    Lilliburlero, bullen a la.

    Brendan Behan had it that the apprentice Boys were Irish speakers and the above chorus would read:

    Lili ba léir é, ba linn an lá...

    Translation: The Lily is triumphant, the day is ours.
    A bit of mischief then.

    The BBC's old radio ident tune.


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    Visited the Apprentice boys and orange order lodge in Derry as part of a field trip last April. I enjoyed the history etc. but they really gloss over the troubles and and a bit much when their informative video talks about defeating the forces of catholic King James II and how a victory of protestantism was unfortunately considered a defeat by the catholics of Derry. Yes catholics of Derry that oppression was in your heads.

    Nice to see they're rewriting their own narrative to celebrate how a city stood alone against James II who was trying to restore the absolute power of the British monarch They might get a more diverse festival but then they are skewing history I suppose.

    Let them have their festivals but as historical re-enactors not as a way of expressing their perceived protestant supremacy. That said the official line is that they're just historical re-enactors but if they wanted to show commitment to that maybe separate form the orange order.

    Anyway at the time we visited they were stuffing the effigy. I hear they don't get any insurance? Something about burning a large straw effigy in the middle of a city with loads of people watching makes insurance companies reluctant to cover them.

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    As Governor General of the Apprentice Boys, Jim Brownlee, told the News Letter: “Without the Shutting of the Gates, there would have been no Siege, no Glorious Revolution, no William III and no parliamentary democracy as we know it now, that grew and spread across Europe and replaced autocratic monarchies.
    Ahistorical nonsense. The success of the Glorious Revolution had already been assured in England by the end of 1688; the reason it is termed "glorious" is because it was a bloodless coup and one of the best planned and carried off revolutions in history - the petty squabble in Ireland notwithstanding.

    The later events in Derry had no impact whatever on the ultimate outcome of the struggle (it is not even remembered in England, which is a good pointer to its 'importance'), though it did save (and thereafter accelerate) the Protestant Ascendancy in Ireland, which is why it is so important to a section of the Ulster population.

    Finally, autocratic monarchies were toppled in Europe by the armies and ideas of the French Revolution - which had nothing to do with events in 1689 or 1690. Britain did not become a true representative parliamentary democracy until the Reform Act of 1832 at the earliest, and until the late 1870s in reality.

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    In ireland, it was another great victory, and as we all know disruption in Ireland can be a catalyst and a foot in the door for further attacks or invasion.
    They were brave heroes and well worth celebrating

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