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    Back in the second half of 1990s and the first half of the noughties we were reminded about the national "Feel Good Factor". Yes property prices (as well as most other prices) were on the rise, but most people were able to find jobs and cope. Beyond the economy, things were also looking good. We were casting aside the pervasive influence of the Catholic church, Irish writers, musicians, singers and sport people were making their mark on the international stage. Dublin was regularly noted as the "coolest" capital city in Europe and peace had come to Northern Ireland. Emigration had turned to immigration For the first time since the Free State had left the U.K. , there seemed to be a justification for Ireland going it alone.

    Now move the clock forward to today. The national air of doom and gloom is palpable. No amount of cheer-leading by RTÉ and sympathetic elements within the media can disguise that we are among the sickest of the sick men of Europe, economically. While previous governments stood up to Europe in making sure we got our share of grant aid and protected our tax regime, the current government seems intent on being as subservient as possible to our European neighbours. Recessionary budget after recessionary budget have failed to tackle the core issue; the government continues to spend more than it takes in taxes. Our younger generation are again voting with their feet and leaving the country. The suicide rate is at an all time high.

    I have followed politics and current affairs in this country since the 1970s and I don't believe that national morale has ever been so low. There's a sense that it makes no difference, who's in government. No one will do anything of substance to turn things around. No one has the "vision thing" of how we can get out of this seemingly bottomless spiral of recession, unemployment. There seems to be a national sense of longing. The Portuguese have a word; "saudade" that doesn't easily translate to English, but those that understand it will know what I mean. Our national "feel bad factor" is at record levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    For the first time since the Free State had left the U.K. , there seemed to be a justification for Ireland going it alone.
    The justification is that we are a free people and don't to live under the rue of the House of Windsor. Economics doesn't come into it. And to address the OP I don't think ther eis a single person, male or female amongst our visionless lemmings in Leinster House who could change the mood. In short we need a Reagen or a Thatcher.

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    I've noticed a few Pollyanna spoofers that I know even starting to slow down.

    Marion Finucane is talking about the budget now & Ken Murphy from the Law Society is talking about the "huge level of fear around".

    The fear seems to be suffocating the spin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dublin 4 View Post
    I've noticed a few Pollyanna spoofers that I know even starting to slow down.

    Marion Finucane is talking about the budget now & Ken Murphy from the Law Society is talking about the "huge level of fear around".

    The fear seems to be suffocating the spin...
    yes but the feel bad factor is fed by the media.

    For example Chris o Donoghue on newstalk repeatedly referring to the propsed cuts of 12 euro a month as slashing child benefit. A cut of 7% is not slashing.

    But using the word slashing repeatedly helps to stir outrage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davoid View Post
    yes but the feel bad factor is fed by the media.

    For example Chris o Donoghue on newstalk repeatedly referring to the propsed cuts of 12 euro a month as slashing child benefit. A cut of 7% is not slashing.

    But using the word slashing repeatedly helps to stir outrage.
    If it's €12 a month for an unemployed person with 3-4 children then it's a pretty steep drop. What happened to means-testing child benefit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davoid View Post
    For example Chris o Donoghue on newstalk repeatedly referring to the propsed cuts of 12 euro a month as slashing child benefit. A cut of 7% is not slashing.

    But using the word slashing repeatedly helps to stir outrage.
    The media would like to stir outrage, they would enjoy reporting on riots and burning (of other peoples' cars) in the streets but they are failing. Instead, they are spreading fear and misery among those who depend on state spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith-M View Post
    Back in the second half of 1990s and the first half of the noughties we were reminded about the national "Feel Good Factor". Yes property prices (as well as most other prices) were on the rise, but most people were able to find jobs and cope. Beyond the economy, things were also looking good. We were casting aside the pervasive influence of the Catholic church, Irish writers, musicians, singers and sport people were making their mark on the international stage. Dublin was regularly noted as the "coolest" capital city in Europe and peace had come to Northern Ireland. Emigration had turned to immigration For the first time since the Free State had left the U.K. , there seemed to be a justification for Ireland going it alone.

    Now move the clock forward to today. The national air of doom and gloom is palpable. No amount of cheer-leading by RTÉ and sympathetic elements within the media can disguise that we are among the sickest of the sick men of Europe, economically. While previous governments stood up to Europe in making sure we got our share of grant aid and protected our tax regime, the current government seems intent on being as subservient as possible to our European neighbours. Recessionary budget after recessionary budget have failed to tackle the core issue; the government continues to spend more than it takes in taxes. Our younger generation are again voting with their feet and leaving the country. The suicide rate is at an all time high.

    I have followed politics and current affairs in this country since the 1970s and I don't believe that national morale has ever been so low. There's a sense that it makes no difference, who's in government. No one will do anything of substance to turn things around. No one has the "vision thing" of how we can get out of this seemingly bottomless spiral of recession, unemployment. There seems to be a national sense of longing. The Portuguese have a word; "saudade" that doesn't easily translate to English, but those that understand it will know what I mean. Our national "feel bad factor" is at record levels.
    Yet another thread by Keith-M on why Ireland is soooo crap and uses smoke and mirrors to suggest we rejoin the UK. Boring.
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clanrickard View Post
    The justification is that we are a free people and don't to live under the rue of the House of Windsor. Economics doesn't come into it. And to address the OP I don't think ther eis a single person, male or female amongst our visionless lemmings in Leinster House who could change the mood. In short we need a Reagen or a Thatcher.
    Right wing doom porn love in, indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefly123 View Post
    Oops sorry! Accidentally walked in on a right wing doom porn love in. Don't mind me as I slowly back out.
    How many posts before their favourite pin-up girl (clue: also sells frozen 'food') gets a mention?
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