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    Good to hear Pat Rabbitte nail Fianna Fáil's lies over the Property Tax on Claire Byrne earlier. He was asked about some parties disagreeing as to the necessity of the property tax and he replied "I want to nail that now as a lie". He spoke about FF and SF coming out of Troika briefings and giving the utterly disingenuous impression that the Troika did not care about this as long as equivalent savings were found. He made it clear that it is a specific Troika directive and one that FF negotiated.

    FF have been getting away with this total falsehood for too long. Good on Rabbitte for flagging it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    Good to hear Pat Rabbitte nail Fianna Fáil's lies over the Property Tax on Claire Byrne earlier. He was asked about some parties disagreeing as to the necessity of the property tax and he replied "I want to nail that now as a lie". He spoke about FF and SF coming out of Troika briefings and giving the utterly disingenuous impression that the Troika did not care about this as long as equivalent savings were found. He made it clear that it is a specific Troika directive and one that FF negotiated.

    FF have been getting away with this total falsehood for too long. Good on Rabbitte for flagging it.
    Are you suggesting that the Troika are meddling in domestic politics to the extent that we no longer have any discretion in how we raise funding? That if Enda tells them he'll raise the projected funds from a wealth tax, or a hike in motor tax, or whatever, he'll be told where to get off? If that is the case it only confirms that this government badly needs to grow a pair - if they can't change the details, while still achieving the projected revenue or saving then they are no longer a functioning government. And if what you quote is accurate it means the Troika are not only addressing economic and fiscal issues but are, in fact, setting the political agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flavirostris View Post
    Good to hear Pat Rabbitte nail Fianna Fáil's lies over the Property Tax on Claire Byrne earlier. He was asked about some parties disagreeing as to the necessity of the property tax and he replied "I want to nail that now as a lie". He spoke about FF and SF coming out of Troika briefings and giving the utterly disingenuous impression that the Troika did not care about this as long as equivalent savings were found. He made it clear that it is a specific Troika directive and one that FF negotiated.

    FF have been getting away with this total falsehood for too long. Good on Rabbitte for flagging it.
    Fianna Fail's budget proposals contain a property tax-the 100 euro charge.

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    Typical bluster from Plump Bunny.

    Bunny will talk about anything but discuss the working people's PAYE being thrown at failed capitalist gamblers holding Seanie Bonds.
    Coveney's ambition is the be Ireland's next EU Commissar and Ireland will pay a price as he builds his CV to position himself sufficiently loyal to the nEU empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Are you suggesting that the Troika are meddling in domestic politics to the extent that we no longer have any discretion in how we raise funding? That if Enda tells them he'll raise the projected funds from a wealth tax, or a hike in motor tax, or whatever, he'll be told where to get off? If that is the case it only confirms that this government badly needs to grow a pair - if they can't change the details, while still achieving the projected revenue or saving then they are no longer a functioning government. And if what you quote is accurate it means the Troika are not only addressing economic and fiscal issues but are, in fact, setting the political agenda.
    I assume the minister offered to forgo half of his salary until he regains the power to decide which taxes his cabinet can impose. Just to be consistent. Or is he trying to make it appear that a property tax brought in by a FG/Labour government has nothing to do with him, his party or coalition partners (it was the bad boys who ran away!)

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    Ok FF lied.

    Now lets back to the property tax Pat Rabbittes government are going to announce next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Con Gallagher View Post
    I assume the minister offered to forgo half of his salary until he regains the power to decide which taxes his cabinet can impose. Just to be consistent. Or is he trying to make it appear that a property tax brought in by a FG/Labour government has nothing to do with him, his party or coalition partners (it was the bad boys who ran away!)
    It's just standard FG/Lab response to all questions about their policies - they had somebody on PK yesterday, Regina Doherty I think, and she got so tied up defending her own lot and attacking the opposition policies that she succeeded in neither endeavour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Are you suggesting that the Troika are meddling in domestic politics to the extent that we no longer have any discretion in how we raise funding? That if Enda tells them he'll raise the projected funds from a wealth tax, or a hike in motor tax, or whatever, he'll be told where to get off? If that is the case it only confirms that this government badly needs to grow a pair - if they can't change the details, while still achieving the projected revenue or saving then they are no longer a functioning government. And if what you quote is accurate it means the Troika are not only addressing economic and fiscal issues but are, in fact, setting the political agenda.
    Brave words Sailor, brave words.

    You seem to have forgotten that the country had run out of money until the troika stepped in.
    That comes with conditions. That's life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Are you suggesting that the Troika are meddling in domestic politics to the extent that we no longer have any discretion in how we raise funding?
    Did you miss the last 4 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bren Boru View Post
    Brave words Sailor, brave words.

    You seem to have forgotten that the country had run out of money until the troika stepped in.
    That comes with conditions. That's life.
    The country hadn't run out of money - Lenihan got railroaded by Trichet into a deal that precluded any debt sharing with Europe sooner than he needed to.

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