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Thread: France: UMP crisis to benefit Front National?

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    There are egos, there are political egos and then there are French political egos. In the ongoing civil war convulsing the Union pour un Mouvement Populaire (UMP), it looks like neither side is going to back down and realistically, if anyone does at this stage, he will have lost a lot of face.

    It all goes back to a controversial leadership contest early last month ostensibly won narrowly by Jean-Francois Copé. His rival, Francois Fillon, refuses to accept the result claiming that votes from overseas départments which, he says, weren't counted would have swung the result in his favour.

    The socialist government should (at least privately) be laughing up their sleeves at this. The country is transfixed by the spectacle of the main opposition party tearing itself apart - Fillon has just set up a breakaway group in parliament called RUMP - Rassemblement pour la UMP - thereby distracting attention from the austerity policies of the Hollande administration.

    However, even Hollande is calling for the row to end say that the country needed an effective opposition. Meanwhile, waiting somewhat further to the right is the Front National (FN) which is ready to position itself as the main opposition to the socialists. Its leader, Marine Le Pen is reporting a dramatic increase in requests to join her party. One opinion poll shows that the FN would be the big winner frome ongoing UMP drama.

    Leadership row may cause UMP to split - The Irish Times - Fri, Nov 30, 2012
    France's National Front smells opportunity as rivals feud- swissinfo

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    Oh, they're definitely going to split, I think - cant see how they can avoid it after all that bad feeling. But I don't see that Marine Le Pen will really benefit from it - it's more about who will get the centre voters. Before the presidential election, it would have been François Bayrou's dream come true, but he's a spent force now, I think.

    Maybe Le Pen will get some ex-UMP voters, but her own party has split and resplit several times, sometimes very bitterly. So she can't make any claim to be above that sort of infighting.

    I could be wrong of course!

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    Perhaps. If the FN can be believed, they're seeing a huge surge in membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alara View Post
    Viva Marine LePen and the FN! Let's hope they are gaining ground
    I'd have thought they'd be far too left wing for you...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphonista View Post
    Perhaps. If the FN can be believed, they're seeing a huge surge in membership.
    It's true that the UMP was created as a sort of block that was meant to create a rampart to prevent the FN from becoming mainstream, and it's also true that Marine Le Pen, unlike her father, likes to cultivate a "reasonable", very middle class image. (They're actually millionaires of course, her father was left a fortune in rather dubious circumstances by a rich widow).

    She set out to make the FN acceptable. No more anti-Semitic jokes of the sort Jean-Marie used to crack. And it's been having an effect, long before the UMP's prolonged double suicide made them a laughing stock.

    So as I say, maybe it's true that there is an extra effect just now, but I think it's more the fact that the whole of the French right -wing is going to split up and recompose (yet again!) and Marine Le Pen wants to profit from that. So you could hardly expect them to do other than to announce how well they are already doing from it. It's called spin, I believe.

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    before the UMP was set up who or what was the main center right party?
    "We know what to do, we just dont know how to get elected afterwards" Jean-Claude Juncker on how to fix the European economy

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    RPR? Rassemblement pour la République?

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    They can elect whoever they want but that country is going nowhere fast. They just can't compete any more and that's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alara View Post
    Viva Marine LePen and the FN! Let's hope they are gaining ground
    Don't feed the trolls - this thread so far looks remarkably like a 'sock puppet' exchange.

    Just another opportunity to 'slag off' the 'fash', as they see it.

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