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    The Germans are in trouble and they know it-things are getting so bad that their government saw fit to censor its own report on poverty and wealth allocation in Germany. This is the allegedly strong country that is supposed to bail out Europe, but clearly it cannot even tell its own people the truth about the sad decline that has spread across all of Europe. Good luck relying on Germany- I am sure their hardpressed workers will love bailing out everyone and giving up more power to the EU.

    LEAKED: The Uncensored Report On Poverty In Germany - Business Insider

    Poverty data has been stirring public debate for a while, and across most of Europe. Even the largest consumer products companies are adjusting to it by using commercial strategies that were successful in developing countries.....

    But now the Labor Ministry’s “Poverty and Wealth” report, as revised by the Economy Ministry, was leaked to the Süddeutsche Zeitung, which then put a grunt to work to compare the two versions. Turns out, the original version had been censored!
    It started in the introduction. In the new version, the sentence, “Private wealth in Germany is very unevenly distributed,” has been deleted.
    The original version pointed out: “While wages have risen in the upper areas over the past ten years, lower wages adjusted for inflation have dropped. The income spread has increased,” which would hurt “the sense of justice of the people” and could “jeopardize social cohesion.” Incendiary words, emanating from a Labor Ministry run by a conservative government. Too incendiary.
    It was replaced by the new jargon, heard so often in the battle over Greece: falling real wages were an “expression of structural improvements” in the labor market and created low-wage jobs for many unemployed people.
    It is instructive that the same EU-speak that is used to lie to conquered countries is now being used to lie to the German people. It is also instructive to see how much countries in Europe are being run like China- if the truth is inconvenient, then just make up something more suitable. It also neatly undermines that as soon as a statistic or a report gets anywhere near a political organization, it quite often loses more and more of its information value and becomes both more manipulated and less actionable.

    Here is the actual report:
    http://www.testosteronepit.com/stora..._17-9-2012.pdf

    And here are some selected low points from the original article:
    For example, in 1998, the lower 50% of the population owned 4% of all private wealth, while the upper 10% owned 45%. By 2008, the lower 50% owned only 1%, but the upper 10% had increased its share to 53% (at the expense also of the in-between 40%). Other reports have painted similar pictures.
    The poverty report by Germany’s statistical agency showed that the “poverty rate” in Germany has been creeping up: in 2008, it was 15.5%; in 2009 it was 15.6%, and in 2010 it was 15.8%. Particularly hard-hit were people under 65 who lived alone. Their poverty rate was 36.1%. For single-parent households, it was 37.1%.
    The city of Munich issued its own poverty report. By taking into account Munich’s high cost of living, it found that nearly a fifth of its residents lived in poverty.

    So can we stop with all the Germany- worshipping and all the false optimism and just admit that Europe is well and truly in bits, and that neither of the big two are in any fit state to be bailing anyone out?

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    The Germans underwent a decade of austerity to get to be where they are today. Social welfare rates are, I believe, a lot lower than here.

    *hops out of way to avoid stampede of naysayers*
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    I don't expect this thread to do very well but thank you all the same sds.

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    Interesting.

    One of BBC4 TV's current documentaries on Why Poverty said that in the US, the wealth of the top 400 people exceeded that of the poorest 150 million of the US population!

    It also gave similar statistics about the general opening of the wealth gap between the top and bottom in society over recent years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shqiptar View Post
    The Germans underwent a decade of austerity to get to be where they are today. Social welfare rates are, I believe, a lot lower than here.
    But surely a fairly implemented austerity would narrow inequality? Asking those with a greater share of the wealth to sacrifice a greater share of that wealth.

    In Germany it apparently did the opposite. As it is currently doing in Greece. As it is currently doing in Ireland.

    Now either this is an unintended consequence, in which case austerity policies need to be urgently re-thought, or it is an intended consequence, in which case the democratically elected governments that are imposing such policies need to be honest about those intentions.

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    Most Germans are ok, just like the Irish.

    It is the governments that are shockingly poor/corrupt.
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    a minority of poor people are poor for a reason they deserve to be poor as they have never shown any ambition to better themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clearmurk View Post
    Interesting.

    One of BBC4 TV's current documentaries on Why Poverty said that in the US, the wealth of the top 400 people exceeded that of the poorest 150 million of the US population!

    It also gave similar statistics about the general opening of the wealth gap between the top and bottom in society over recent years.
    It is the point, & victory, of neoliberalism. And its cheerleaders want more, faster, harder, bigger, better. They won't be happy til we have the same (non)rights as the Chinese.

    Companies Hoard Cash, Damping Growth - WSJ.com

    Super Rich Hide $21 Trillion Offshore, Study Says - Forbes

    The Trans-Pacific Partnership: This is What Corporate Governance Looks Like

    Watch them crawl out of the woodwork here, some of them funded no doubt by the Kochtopus


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFunkyBoogaloo View Post
    I don't expect this thread to do very well but thank you all the same sds.
    Yeah, I don't think it will do great. The Eurotrons can't really justify it and it's not even news to those who know better and those who refuse to drink drink the kool-aid being dispensed by the governments and their mainstream-media cheerleaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo9jo View Post
    Correct - AFAIK Hartz 4 is about € 380 per month.

    The dole in Ireland is a lot higher.
    You can buy a hearty meal of sausage, bread and curry off a street venor in Berlin for 4 euro.

    (but who would want to)

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