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Thread: Numbers of Gardai could drop below 13,000 - Shatter

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    Garda numbers could dip below 13,000 - Shatter - The Irish Times - Wed, Nov 28, 2012

    Minister for Justice Alan Shatter has suggested the number of gardaí may fall below 13,000 and could not say when recruitment might begin again. [...]

    However, with 13,440 members still in An Garda Síochána, the EU-IMF bailout target of 13,000 will be missed. Based on current rates of retirement, that target will not be met for almost a year
    On average that's 1 Garda for every 353 people.

    Do posters feel such numbers are acceptable/workable?

    (whatever happened to protecting frontline servces btw?)

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    Help your local force: beat yourself up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFunkyBoogaloo View Post
    Garda numbers could dip below 13,000 - Shatter - The Irish Times - Wed, Nov 28, 2012



    On average that's 1 Garda for every 353 people.

    Do posters feel such numbers are acceptable/workable?

    (whatever happened to protecting frontline servces btw?)
    That was never the priority.

    The priority is to protect the pay of existing Guards.

    Don't blame Shatter. Blame Croke Park.

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    there only needs to be about 10,000 gardai, it is overstaffed, perhaps if the government admitted that the war on drugs was unwinnable and legalised all recreational drugs then resources would be allocated towards combating other forms of crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidoff View Post
    That was never the priority.

    The priority is to protect the pay of existing Guards.

    Don't blame Shatter. Blame Croke Park.
    The IMF were the ones who gave the "order" to reduce the numbers to 13,000, Croke Park has not a whole lot to do with it and Shatter is way behind on cutting back numbers.

    It is a misleading headline, it should read Cut backs in Garda numbers lagging behind IMF policy

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    Quote Originally Posted by True Republican View Post
    there only needs to be about 10,000 gardai, it is overstaffed ...
    "In June 2004, police numbers in Scotland were 15,714. By the end of June 2012, police numbers had risen to 17,373. This shows a 10.56& increase in police numbers over this 8 year period." -

    List of police forces in the United Kingdom - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidoff View Post
    That was never the priority.

    The priority is to protect the pay of existing Guards.

    Don't blame Shatter. Blame Croke Park.
    by the rotation of patrol cars parked outside one harcourt street "venue" chatting to bouncers on any given night you'd almost be forgiven to think we had to many already

    sorry i digress

    much much better to pay a litany of quangos and the highest paid advisers in europe than protect frontline pay and numbers


    not to worry by the rate people are leaving 13000 will be more than enough

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    If anyone ever believed that we could slash this much off our budget and protect front-line services then they're unbelievably deluded.
    A whole generation of people may never even get the chance to become Gardai and other public sector workers in Ireland as they'll be too old by the time recruitment re-opens.
    Even if they do competition will be unbelievably fierce by the time recruitment re-commences.

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    Arm all Gardai, and there would be less need for Gardai to patrol in groups or pairs.

    Make more use of sniffer dogs for drug detection using them on foot patrol.

    Allow Gardai to work overtime to police road traffic offences, for a share of fines, but without pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potholedogger View Post
    Arm all Gardai, and there would be less need for Gardai to patrol in groups or pairs.

    Make more use of sniffer dogs for drug detection using them on foot patrol.

    Allow Gardai to work overtime to police road traffic offences, for a share of fines, but without pay.
    Your first proposal is one that I totally agree with,in this day and age they have to be armed.At first glance the third one is a good idea but it could lead to more Garda corruption and over-enforcement of laws which could harm community relations.
    Having sniffer dogs routinely going around with them would be better replaced by decriminalising the use of recreational drugs for personal use.

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