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Thread: #VINB Tue 27/11/2012 @22:00: Debate & Discussion - Abortion

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    Default #VINB Tue 27/11/2012 @22:00: Debate & Discussion - Abortion


    Arguing against legislating for x case:
    Breda O‘Brien, Patron Iona Institute, Columnist Irish Times Breda O'Brien - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    William Binchy, Regius Professor of Laws Trinity College, Legal Advisor Pro-Life William Binchy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Arguing in favour of legislating for x case:
    Dearbhail McDonald, Legal Affairs Editor Irish Independent Dearbhail McDonald: Sickened at 20-year wait for law - Analysis, Opinion - Independent.ie
    Ivana Bacik, Labour Senator, Reid Professor Criminal Law Trinity College Ivana Bacik | Ability. Vision. Experience.


    Publication of the Report of the Expert Group on the judgment in A, B and C v Ireland
    Decision on abortion report by end of year - RTÉ News
    Abortion law reform decision expected by end December - National News - Independent.ie
    Government publishes report from expert group on abortion law | BreakingNews.ie
    Abortion legislation: Taoiseach to act 'as soon as possible' on expert group's findings | Irish Examiner


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    Fionnan Sheahan, Political editor Irish Independent http://www.independent.ie/national-n...s-3253755.html

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    Will probably avoid this, as really the abortion issue really has been flagged to death over the last few weeks between Primetime and Frontline and Vinny B...

    Mind you - from a pro-life perspective...

    Am happy that Ivana Bacik is taking part, as she is patronising, arrogant and irritating....
    Am Also happy that Ronan Mullen is not taking part, as he is also patronising, arrogant and irritating...

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    I would vote to abolish the Seanad, just to get rid of Roly Mullen........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casualbets View Post
    Am happy that Ivana Bacik is taking part, as she is patronising, arrogant and irritating....
    Am Also happy that Ronan Mullen is not taking part, as he is also patronising, arrogant and irritating...
    Must be something wrong with the swill in their trough

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    Ah the lovely and friendly Breda O'Brien.

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    Well we know where Bacik stands . And seemingly knows it all.

    Ivana Bacik ‏@ivanabacik

    Dr Veronica O'Keane speaking clear sense - debunking anti-choice myths about effect of abortion on mental health

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    Claire Daly has just said 'this is just the start' of her abortion agenda.

    She is a rabbid pro-abortionist.

    Week 13: Urine forms
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    Tissue that will become bone is also developing around your baby's head and within his or her arms and legs.

    Week 14: Baby's sex becomes apparent
    Fourteen weeks into your pregnancy, or 12 weeks after conception, your baby's arms have almost reached the final relative lengths they'll be at birth and your baby's neck has become more defined. Red blood cells are forming in your baby's spleen.
    Your baby's sex will become apparent this week or in the coming weeks. For girls, ovarian follicles begin forming. For boys, the prostate appears.
    By now your baby might be almost 3 1/2 inches (87 millimeters) long from crown to rump and weigh about 1 1/2 ounces (45 grams).

    Week 15: Baby's skeleton develops bones
    Fifteen weeks into your pregnancy, or 13 weeks after conception, your baby is growing rapidly. Your baby's skeleton is developing bones, which will become visible on ultrasound images in a few weeks. Your baby's scalp hair pattern also is forming.

    Week 16: Baby can make sucking motions
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    Although still too slight to be felt, your baby's movements are becoming coordinated and can be detected during ultrasound exams.
    By now your baby might be more than 4 1/2 inches (120 millimeters) long from crown to rump.

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    For girls, the uterus and vagina might begin to form this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linny55 View Post
    Well we know where Bacik stands . And seemingly knows it all.

    Dr Veronica O'Keane speaking clear sense - debunking anti-choice myths about effect of abortion on mental health
    Is an abortion the treatment of choice for depression? News to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homer's odd View Post
    Claire Daly has just said 'this is just the start'.

    She is a rabbid pro-abortionist.
    Pro-choice...sheesh.

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    'Pro-child, Pro-choice'. A contradiction in terms surely?

    Given V Browne's recent article supporting abortion on demand, he has lost the credibility to moderate debates on this issue.

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