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    Default Does the Irish Times now run the country?

    It's chairman has been appointed head of the Constitutional Convetion.

    And it's agenda - abortion, same sex marriage, secularising education and protecting its public sector readerhip - is now clearly given government priorty over what we thought the government was elected for (fixing the economy, jobs).

    The Irish Times is bought by about 2 per cent of the population - mostly a public service and slightly left of centre elite who want to replace the catholic church with their secular equivalents (HSE, Bureaucracy, quangos). Members of its trust include that secular equivalent of John Charles McQuaid himself, David Begg (who also sat on board of our financial regulator)

    The fact that it has set an agenda on abortion - using tragic death of Savita - to get all parties and RTE to dance to its tune and the fact that its chairman is heading the constitutional convention shows its awesome power.

    So the question is: Do our politicians govern in the interests of the Irish People? Or the Irish Times.

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    DC moves fast petunia
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Brother View Post
    It's chairman has been appointed head of the Constitutional Convetion.

    And it's agenda - abortion, same sex marriage, secularising education and protecting its public sector readerhip - is now clearly given government priorty over what we thought the government was elected for (fixing the economy, jobs).

    The Irish Times is bought by about 2 per cent of the population - mostly a public service and slightly left of centre elite who want to replace the catholic church with their secular equivalents (HSE, Bureaucracy, quangos). Members of its trust include that secular equivalent of John Charles McQuaid himself, David Begg (who also sat on board of our financial regulator)

    The fact that it has set an agenda on abortion - using tragic death of Savita - to get all parties and RTE to dance to its tune and the fact that its chairman is heading the constitutional convention shows its awesome power.

    So the question is: Do our politicians govern in the interests of the Irish People? Or the Irish Times.
    Nah, its still only a newspaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Brother View Post
    It's chairman has been appointed head of the Constitutional Convetion.

    And it's agenda - abortion, same sex marriage, secularising education and protecting its public sector readerhip - is now clearly given government priorty over what we thought the government was elected for (fixing the economy, jobs).

    The Irish Times is bought by about 2 per cent of the population - mostly a public service and slightly left of centre elite who want to replace the catholic church with their secular equivalents (HSE, Bureaucracy, quangos). Members of its trust include that secular equivalent of John Charles McQuaid himself, David Begg (who also sat on board of our financial regulator)

    The fact that it has set an agenda on abortion - using tragic death of Savita - to get all parties and RTE to dance to its tune and the fact that its chairman is heading the constitutional convention shows its awesome power.

    So the question is: Do our politicians govern in the interests of the Irish People? Or the Irish Times.
    I doubt the Health Minister likes the IT all that much.

    Primary care list altered evening before launch - The Irish Times - Sat, Nov 24, 2012
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Brother View Post
    The Irish Times is bought by about 2 per cent of the population -
    true, my 8 year old prefers the FT himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by statsman View Post
    Indeed not.

    IT seems to follow Labour agenda in attacking him whenever he resists Labour's agenda.

    IT also always praises FG/FF politicians as "mature" when they agree with IT on social issues. And it always attacks any politician who disagrees with that agenda.

    IT chairman Tom Arnold is a decent and respected man. But I don't know given IT's clear contempt for our constitution and its radical left agenda on social issues - driven by a lot of journalists with hard left backgrounds - that any IT person should head the constitutional review.

    Or that politicians should be pandering to its demands for legilsation on abortion when there is no proof and much doubt if our legislative regime on abortion had anything to do with Savita's death.

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    Surely the process depends on finding people who would like to change things in order to let them express their reasoning to the public who will then vote on it?

    What would be the point in appointing people who would prefer to leave the Constitution unchanged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Brother View Post
    Indeed not.

    IT seems to follow Labour agenda in attacking him whenever he resists Labour's agenda.

    IT also always praises FG/FF politicians as "mature" when they agree with IT on social issues. And it always attacks any politician who disagrees with that agenda.

    IT chairman Tom Arnold is a decent and respected man. But I don't know given IT's clear contempt for our constitution and its radical left agenda on social issues - driven by a lot of journalists with hard left backgrounds - that any IT person should head the constitutional review.

    Or that politicians should be pandering to its demands for legilsation on abortion when there is no proof and much doubt if our legislative regime on abortion had anything to do with Savita's death.
    So this is really just another anti-abortion thread with labour as the villains of the piece?
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    Must say though that the business supplement is good.

    And John Waters, Fintan O'Toole Breda O'Brien Stephen Collins and Noel Whelan are a great read.

    When not cheerleading for democrats in US, foreign coverage pretty good too.

    But the news editorial line is clearly no longer "paper of record" and is clearly now agenda driven by hard left issues.

    The whole country wants jobs and recovery. But the elitist Irish Times is talking about abortion and same sex marriage.

    Typical D4 aloofness if you ask me. And ireelevance.

    And yet our politicians dance to its tune.....

    I put it down to the national inferiority complex that the IT - long a unionist paper - so deliberately cultivated to keep the catholic natives ("the white n***ers" as one former trust chariman Major MacDowell referred to them) in their place.

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