This thread is for discussing this bid which comes up on November 29th as opposed to Gaza operations. There will be a vote of the symbolic date of November 29th in the General Assembly. The Palestinians claim they have 150 of the 191 votes in the bag and the vote is likely to sail through. The US is certain to veto it in the Security Council
The thinking of Lieberamn is spelled out in this link with the segment below being the stand out segment........
Israel Heightens Warnings Over Palestinians? U.N. Bid - NYTimes.com
The security council will meet on Monday to discuss the issue. France, Russia and China say they will back the bid. The US are against I am not sure about the UK. The US is going to be increasingly isolated if they veto if they veto. The Saudi Ambassador said .........A second document, an internal paper labeled “draft” and written by staff members of Israel’s hard-line foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, was more explicit. It described Mr. Abbas as an unpopular, weakened leader who had grown rich from leading a corrupt authority and was heading to the United Nations in a last-ditch effort to remain in power.
A recognition of Palestinian statehood by the United Nations, it stated, would leave Israel no alternative but to topple “the government of Abu Mazen,” referring to Mr. Abbas by his nickname. Any softer reaction would be interpreted as “raising a white flag,” it said.
Even they veto full membership the GA can go and vote for a status similar to the Vatican which a non-member state. I see no good reason for either Israel or the US blocking this bid. It will concentrate minds in the negotiations that must take place. It forces both Israel and Palestine to to try and adhere closer to international norms. The threat of a quick trip to the ICC might make some people think twice before reaching for their guns. We can go round and round the mulberry bush but we come back to two realities. The Palestinians must accept Israel is there to stay and they must recognize this fact and 3.5 million Palestinians must have their own state.Saudi Arabia would no longer be able to cooperate with America in the same way it historically has. The special relationship increasingly would be seen as toxic by the vast majority of Arabs and Muslims, who demand justice for the Palestinian people.