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    Default Liveline Today's Whinge! Shopkeeper squeezed by bigger multiples.

    Whinge Whinge Whinge

    Shopkeeper is staying open to provide service to community. He is making no money.

    Five pubs close in one week in one Carlow.

    Too many pubs! too many shops!

    It must be good if consumers can spend less on their groceries. It means they can spend more on other things.

    It is all gravy for Joe on his huge salary!

    Can this be public service broadcasting?
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    The Joe Duffy soundboard is an ideal accompaniment which can enhance the listening experience.petunia

    Joe Duffy soundboard

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    Retail is very cut-throat. Multiples will actively stamp out competitors. When a guy opened a fish shop nead me, the managers in the local supermarket marched down to take down all his prices and undercut them. Irrespective if it means they are losing money on the Tuna steaks, they want rid.

    The other villans in this are the landlords and us citizens who consider that businesses should pay commercial rates, but we should not pay local taxes.

    But that view will not be popular no doubt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by potholedogger View Post
    Whinge Whinge Whinge

    Shopkeeper is staying open to provide service to community. He is making no money.

    Five pubs close in one week in one town.

    Too many pubs! too many shops!

    It must be good if consumers can spend less on their groceries. It means they can spend more on other things.

    It is all gravy for Joe on his huge salary!

    Can this be public service broadcasting?
    Why don't you ring Joe Duffy and...

    Oh wait...

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    There is a time to close a business and move on.

    All the better is we are drinking less!

    Joe goes to take an add break and que add for Lidl!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor Meldrew View Post
    Retail is very cut-throat. Multiples will actively stamp out competitors. When a guy opened a fish shop nead me, the managers in the local supermarket marched down to take down all his prices and undercut them. Irrespective if it means they are losing money on the Tuna steaks, they want rid.

    The other villans in this are the landlords and us citizens who consider that businesses should pay commercial rates, but we should not pay local taxes.

    But that view will not be popular no doubt...
    And then we are left with ghost towns surrounded by soulless shopping centers. But difficult to see that clearly in the midst of a recession when every penny counts.

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    Posters on this site lllloooooooove to criticise Talk to Joe, loads of threads re Liveline with endless posts that ridicule/sneer at the content of his show, i believe that some posters try to give the impression that they are above all that kinda thing. in the same way as that anyone that mentions something from the Sunday World will preface their comment by saying "i read in the Sunday World, didn't buy it myself but it was in the waiting room of....or in the in-laws house.. or the neighbour had it etc", a kind of a snobbish attitude if you like.
    For a show that seems to be so disliked it sure seems we have a lot of listeners on this site!

    Why shouldn't business people that employ staff, pay tax and rates, sponsor local clubs (which the multiples never do, with the exception of super valu maybe) be allowed to voice their concerns? that is what public broadcasting should be about, imo.

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    What is being described is Bertie's Ireland.

    Newsagents needing dozens of State licences costing thousands of 's just to open the door. Newsagents ffs!

    Rates and rents that are so high it's scarcely conceivable how turnover can meet them. Owner of Castle Inn in Rathfarnham on saying he's not paying his full rates cause he can't afford them. Pub's been there 54 years.

    Out of town shopping centres closing local businesses by the dozen in small towns.

    Second highest minimum wage in Europe...and Heads of County Councils earning more than many European Prime Ministers. For that matter, Heads of fking HR at County Councils probably earning more than some Euro PM's!

    This is Bertie Ahern's crony capitalist nightmare.

    ....

    For all the whinging about LiveLine, the publican and shop owner here have been quite superb in expressing the issues. Fair play to both of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor Meldrew View Post
    Retail is very cut-throat. Multiples will actively stamp out competitors. When a guy opened a fish shop nead me, the managers in the local supermarket marched down to take down all his prices and undercut them. Irrespective if it means they are losing money on the Tuna steaks, they want rid.
    This is true. In the short term, you might save a few bob by shopping in the big supermarkets, but in the longer term, they are attempting to have a monopoly in which they set the prices - for their benefit, of course, not that of the consumer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Interista View Post
    This is true. In the short term, you might save a few bob by shopping in the big supermarkets, but in the longer term, they are attempting to have a monopoly in which they set the prices - for their benefit, of course, not that of the consumer.
    Urban consumers are better placed to take advantage of competitive prices in multiples. Rural consumers are paying much more for their food and groceries.

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