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    Default Sectarianism in NI - a result of the segregated school system which sees 180 schools all Protestant pupils and 111 schools all Catholic.

    Is the reason for sectarianism in NI a result of the segregated school system which sees 180 schools with no Catholic pupils and 111 schools with no Protestant pupils?

    • 493 schools in the 2011/12 year educated almost exclusively pupils of just one religion (95% or more) – compared to 827 schools in 1997/98.

    • 91% of Protestant primary children attended controlled (mainly Protestant) schools and 88% of Catholic primary pupils were enrolled in Catholic maintained primaries in the last academic year.

    • At the same time, 88% of Catholic post-primary pupils attended Catholic maintained or Catholic managed voluntary schools and 89% of Protestant post-primary children attended controlled schools.

    • Integrated school pupil numbers have increased from 8,154 to 21,170 over the last 14 years with integrated schools increased from 33 to 62 over the same period.

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    Although NI First Minister Peter Robinson promised to reduce the “benign apartheid” in education, little change is in prospect and even teachers continue to be trained separately with Stranmillis University College for training staff for the state sector and St Mary’s University College preparing teachers for Catholic maintained schools.
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    Its not helped by the fact much of the population are muppets either.
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    Sectarianism, gerrymandering and discrimination are at the heart of why the North was set up and handed to Unionists in the first place.
    Start there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivabrigada View Post
    Sectarianism, gerrymandering and discrimination are at the heart of why the North was set up and handed to Unionists in the first place.
    Start there.
    You encapsulate the problem in that those unwilling to change (on both sides) are stuck in the past. Each has their own starting point and analysis supported and re-enforced by segregated education which keeps people trapped in a mind-set blind to the other point of view.
    Even when students move on to higher education the divide often continues while the political will is subjugated by the limited ambitions of over-paid and insular politicians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynicist View Post
    Is the reason for sectarianism in NI a result of the segregated school system which sees 180 schools with no Protestant pupils and 111 schools with no Catholic pupils?

    • 493 schools in the 2011/12 year educated almost exclusively pupils of just one religion (95% or more) – compared to 827 schools in 1997/98.

    • 91% of Protestant primary children attended controlled (mainly Protestant) schools and 88% of Catholic primary pupils were enrolled in Catholic maintained primaries in the last academic year.

    • At the same time, 88% of Catholic post-primary pupils attended Catholic maintained or Catholic managed voluntary schools and 89% of Protestant post-primary children attended controlled schools.

    • Integrated school pupil numbers have increased from 8,154 to 21,170 over the last 14 years with integrated schools increased from 33 to 62 over the same period.

    Link to; HOW INTEGRATED ARE SCHOOLS WHERE YOU LIVE? | TheDetail.tv

    Although NI First Minister Peter Robinson promised to reduce the “benign apartheid” in education, little change is in prospect and even teachers continue to be trained separately with Stranmillis University College for training staff for the state sector and St Mary’s University College preparing teachers for Catholic maintained schools.
    What caused the segregated education?

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    Double posting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenshane4 View Post
    What caused the segregated education?
    I'll go for the RCC.

    When mandatory secondary state education first came on stream,more or less all schools were integrated.The RCC decided it needed to control RC education,no one else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DT123 View Post
    I'll go for the RCC.

    When mandatory secondary state education first came on stream,more or less all schools were integrated.The RCC decided it needed to control RC education,no one else.
    Are you surprised the Catholic Church wouldn't hand over the education of Catholics to Unionists in the gerrymandered North?
    The British used education to try to destroy the Irish language. Unionists would have had us all flying the union Jack and singing god save the queen every morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivabrigada View Post
    Are you surprised the Catholic Church wouldn't hand over the education of Catholics to Unionists in the gerrymandered North?
    The British used education to try to destroy the Irish language. Unionists would have had us all flying the union Jack and singing god save the queen every morning.
    Well if youse sung GSTQ as enthusiastically as youse sing the Soldiers Song at a rugby match no-one would notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vivabrigada View Post
    Are you surprised the Catholic Church wouldn't hand over the education of Catholics to Unionists in the gerrymandered North?
    The British used education to try to destroy the Irish language. Unionists would have had us all flying the union Jack and singing god save the queen every morning.
    are you implying that this isn't everyone's standard morning absolutions...
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