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Thread: Is FG capitulation now complete? (Croke pk, prop tax, gay marriage & now abortion)

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    Default Is FG capitulation now complete? (Croke pk, prop tax, gay marriage & now abortion)

    FG have accepted Labour's view on the Croke Park deal.

    Ditching their own manifesto commitment on property tax (page 59 of manifesto) they've let Labour win on that and are even getting their own Minister Phil Hogan to implement it.

    FG's own Ard Fheis has voted in favour of same sex marriage legislation

    And an FG Health Minister has promised Clare Daly legislation on abortion and appointed a pro abortion medic to head Savita inquiry and a former pro abortion advocate to head up HSE. So clealry legalisation of abortion is imminent.

    So my question is: Is FG's capitulation to Labour now complete?

    Or are there any other shreds of FG's values and policies that remain to be given up on?
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    Sorry forgot to add one more thing: Giving Labour control of education policy so they can pursue their agenda there too.

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    How about country and western style gombeenisim? India, phill, dicey, frankie fagin,michael ring and John perry. Although labour have adopted this in spades with gilmour and Keaveney leading the charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Brother View Post
    FG have accepted Labour's view on the Croke Park deal.

    Ditching their own manifesto commitment on property tax (page 59 of manifesto) they've let Labour win on that and are even getting their own Minister Phil Hogan to implement it.

    FG's own Ard Fheis has voted in favour of same sex marriage legislation

    And an FG Health Minister has promised Clare Daly legislation on abortion and appointed a pro abortion medic to head Savita inquiry and a former pro abortion advocate to head up HSE. So clealry legalisation of abortion is imminent.

    So my question is: Is FG's capitulation to Labour now complete?

    Or are there any other shreds of FG's values and policies that remain to be given up on?
    How can you blame Labour for a motion passed at a FG Ard Fheis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Bumble View Post
    How can you blame Labour for a motion passed at a FG Ard Fheis?
    Not blaming Labour as such.

    In fact I'd compliment them for getting there way on nearly everything.

    But that motion was passed without a debate - no opposing voices were accepted from the floor.

    Looks like FG have even adopted democratic centralist philosophy of WP in how they run their Ard Fheiseanna

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Brother View Post
    Sorry forgot to add one more thing: Giving Labour control of education policy so they can pursue their agenda there too.


    Ooooh, g'wan tell us whats Labours education agenda?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eoghanacht View Post
    Ooooh, g'wan tell us whats Labours education agenda?
    To use - with their allies in the media - the crimes of about 1% of priests to remove the 99% who did nothing but good for the children of this country.

    That way they can create their ideal: A mediocre state run system that produces welfare dependents run by trade unions who fund them and who produce good left wing voters for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Brother View Post
    Not blaming Labour as such.

    In fact I'd compliment them for getting there way on nearly everything.

    But that motion was passed without a debate - no opposing voices were accepted from the floor.

    Looks like FG have even adopted democratic centralist philosophy of WP in how they run their Ard Fheiseanna
    Both parties are keeping their traditional voters (relatively) happy. Labour the liberal/PS vote and FG the farmers/business/professions/conservative vote. Funny how it might be something like an abortion referendum that will cause the coalition to unravel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eoghanacht View Post
    Ooooh, g'wan tell us whats Labours education agenda?
    To steal schools from Catholics and to impose anti-Catholic teachers on Catholic children.

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