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    Mods can we have a poll on this? Yes or No responses?

    We all know there's a shortage of suitable organs out there and without getting into the nitty gritty of will so and sos heart be shipped outside the state etc etc, do you agree or disagree, in principle, that we should all be considered automatic organ donors unless specifically stated otherwise?

    I've no experience with organ donation or transplants but if I dropped dead tomorrow I'd hope that whatever I have that might give someone a few more years or just a better quality of life, would be taken and used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schomberg View Post
    Mods can we have a poll on this? Yes or No responses?

    We all know there's a shortage of suitable organs out there and without getting into the nitty gritty of will so and sos heart be shipped outside the state etc etc, do you agree or disagree, in principle, that we should all be considered automatic organ donors unless specifically stated otherwise?

    I've no experience with organ donation or transplants but if I dropped dead tomorrow I'd hope that whatever I have that might give someone a few more years or just a better quality of life, would be taken and used.
    I wonder if someone got your heart, would they indeed have a change of heart regarding the UK petunia

    In seriousness though, ya, it should be opt out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schomberg View Post
    Mods can we have a poll on this? Yes or No responses?

    We all know there's a shortage of suitable organs out there and without getting into the nitty gritty of will so and sos heart be shipped outside the state etc etc, do you agree or disagree, in principle, that we should all be considered automatic organ donors unless specifically stated otherwise?

    I've no experience with organ donation or transplants but if I dropped dead tomorrow I'd hope that whatever I have that might give someone a few more years or just a better quality of life, would be taken and used.
    Fair enough if you have consented but others may have all sorts of issues on religious and moral grounds and that needs to be respected. By the way if you dropped dead your organs would in all likelihood be useless, they are normally harvested from those kept alive (if that is the word?) by a machine until consent is given.

    I do not agree with presumed consent or worst still forced harvesting of organs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    I wonder if someone got your heart, would they indeed have a change of heart regarding the UK petunia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Northsideman View Post
    Fair enough if you have consented but others may have all sorts of issues on religious and moral grounds and that needs to be respected. By the way if you dropped dead your organs would in all likelihood be useless, they are normally harvested from those kept alive (if that is the word?) by a machine until consent is given.

    I do not agree with presumed consent or worst still forced harvesting of organs.
    It'd be the reverse of what we currently have. If you've a problem with organ donation on religious grounds (or whatever) then you carry a card to say so. Otherwise your organs would be harvested.

    Religious reasons aside I don't see why you should have any problems with something you no longer have any use for going to help a fellow human being. Seems completely illogical and erm, fairly cruel.
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    In a word 'yes'

    So far this year 150 people have died on our roads that is 150 hearts, 300 kidneys, 300 corneas, 150 livers et cetera. I realize that not all organs would be viable for transplant but even 50% would improve the life of over 500 people instantly. Those 500 people who are probably taking up valuable health resources that would be freed up reducing our deficit along the way.

    Maybe we should have certain DNA information on our shiny plastic drivers licences to enable suitable recipients to be found quicker.

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    Couldn't agree more with the op, it should be opt out based.
    Have a doner card anyway, but most people don't bother, but would have no issue with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schomberg View Post
    You've foiled my plan!!
    Jayus imagine you with Jarry or Martin's heart.

    Would you then be Fenian in your very heart?
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    Absolutely. If I'm not mistaken this legislation will be passed in 2014 in Wales.

    The simple fact is that most are more than happy to provide their organs to save the lives of others, but they are just too lazy to get the card.

    The nutters who want to opt out still can, so everyones happy, particularly all those people and their families who can get another chance.
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    No. How can you have a right to 'bodily integrity' if you actually did not have that right upon death?

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