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Thread: Colm Keaveney calls for an end of the era of "welfare for life"

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    Default Colm Keaveney calls for an end of the era of "welfare for life"

    Not exactly singing off the the 'protecting the most vulnerable' hymn sheet. Is this yet another shot across the bows of Eamon Gilmore?

    Mr Keaveney said future Budgets had to make radical decisions such as recognising that the era of "welfare for life" was at an end -- and, at the other end of the scale, targeting high-profile tax exiles who pay no tax in Ireland.
    Keaveney warns of middle-class strain - National News - Independent.ie
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    Welfare should be generous enough to live on, but not enough to run away from paying work and should only be used as a safety net.
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    Welfare should be generous enough to live on, but not enough to run away from paying work and should only be used as a safety net.
    But how do you do that when low paying work is barely generous enought to live on?

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    I agree with everything Keaveney has said.

    Does that mean I'll have to vote Labour in the next election?

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    I was listening to an interview Andy O'Mahony carried out with Eric Hobsbawm in the 90s. Hobsbawm was a Marxist, of course, but he pointed out that many of the social welfare programs that were created in the post war era were created at a time of full employment and when it was thought that this would be the new norm in the future. Therefore, social welfare programs were instituted on the basis that they would be little used. They were not intended to be mass programs to be relied on upon by many people for many years.

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    Once again Keaveney is making comments that happen to point the finger at senior LP figures.

    Did former Anglo Banglo employee Arthur Spring have anything to say about this. considering the way the banks are going these days ?
    Coveney's ambition is the be Ireland's next EU Commissar and Ireland will pay a price as he builds his CV to position himself sufficiently loyal to the nEU empire.

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    About time too, we all know people who have been on the dole/lone parents and other benefits for twenty + years. All people on full time benefits should be counted as unemployed( not pensioners) and then with the full figure known , broke down in to groups. Then the figure on full time benefits and the reason why would be known to the public. It might shock a lot of people and make the unemployment benefits figure look tame in comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simeongrimes View Post
    But how do you do that when low paying work is barely generous enought to live on?
    Tax breaks to small businesses to allow them pay their staff more or take on more workers which will just go back into the economy anyway, spinning the wheel of wealth.
    Boycott the "Irish" Sun rag.

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    There's confusing messages from Labour at the moment. On the one hand, they don't want to cut the minimum wage, so guaranteeing that lower end jobs will not be created and leading to high unemployment, particularly amongst young people. They are also promising to protect social welfare rates, while at the same time saying that welfare can't be for life.

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    When he talks about "welfare for life" I assume he means TDs, bankers and senior managerial pensions
    "The rich always betray the poor"- Henry Joy McCracken

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