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    Is the UK getting closer to France than the Republic of Ireland is to the UK or even the Eurozone as a whole?

    Despite increasing Euroscepticism the UK particularly GB seems to be moving towards a fiscal unity with France even without a common currency.


    Politics ----------->>>> French MP's for London
    BBC News - Why are the French getting an 'MP for London'?
    Transport ------>>> Channel Tunnel ----> Administered in France
    Diplomacy -
    BBC News - French diplomatic service is the world's best, UK says
    Welfare Reform ---->>> Carried out by Atos ----->> From France
    British retirees in France lose free health care - Telegraph
    NHS ----->>> Moving closer to the French System
    Andrew Lansley to add French lessons to NHS reform | Healthcare Network | Guardian Professional
    Nuclear weapons and energy ---->>> Shared with France
    BBC News - UK nuclear plans 'put energy in French hands'
    Navy, Army and Defense Policy ------->>> NATO co-operation with France.
    Defence and Security Co-operation Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    So is the UK sleepwalking into Un Royaume-République?

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    Quote Originally Posted by physicist View Post
    Is the UK getting closer to France than the Republic of Ireland is to the UK or even the Eurozone as a whole?

    Despite increasing Euroscepticism the UK particularly GB seems to be moving towards a fiscal unity with France even without a common currency.


    Politics ----------->>>> French MP's for London
    BBC News - Why are the French getting an 'MP for London'?
    Transport ------>>> Channel Tunnel ----> Administered in France
    Diplomacy -
    BBC News - French diplomatic service is the world's best, UK says
    Welfare Reform ---->>> Carried out by Atos ----->> From France
    British retirees in France lose free health care - Telegraph
    NHS ----->>> Moving closer to the French System
    Andrew Lansley to add French lessons to NHS reform | Healthcare Network | Guardian Professional
    Nuclear weapons and energy ---->>> Shared with France
    BBC News - UK nuclear plans 'put energy in French hands'
    Navy, Army and Defense Policy ------->>> NATO co-operation with France.
    Defence and Security Co-operation Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    So is the UK sleepwalking into Un Royaume-République?
    The idea as such is not entirely new - it has some historical antecendents:
    "The final "DECLARATION OF UNION" approved by the British War Cabinet stated that:
    France and Great Britain shall no longer be two nations, but one Franco-British Union. The constitution of the Union will provide for joint organs of defence, foreign, financial and economic policies. Every citizen of France will enjoy immediately citizenship of Great Britain, every British subject will become a citizen of France."


    Franco-British Union

    The poor ould Frogs ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by physicist View Post
    Is the UK getting closer to France than the Republic of Ireland is to the UK or even the Eurozone as a whole?

    Despite increasing Euroscepticism the UK particularly GB seems to be moving towards a fiscal unity with France even without a common currency.
    No they are not. That doesn't even make sense.

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    No.

    Young French people are flocking to London in search of work.

    And elderly brits are flocking to the Med in search of the slow lane. (Something which will be possible soon in Spain for much less money).

    The French cannot even get on with themselves, let alone the British.
    Coveney's ambition is the be Ireland's next EU Commissar and Ireland will pay a price as he builds his CV to position himself sufficiently loyal to the nEU empire.

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    In 1956 the French Prime Minister suggested a Union between France and the UK but it was rejected. Years before in 1940 there was talk of a political union to face down Germany.

    Somehow I don't think the British and French will unite again like they were in the Middle Ages.

    Sir Humphrey Appleby: [talking about nuclear fallout shelters] Well, you have the weapons, you must have the shelters.
    James Hacker: I sometimes wonder why we need the weapons.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Minister! You're not a unilateralist?
    James Hacker: I sometimes wonder, you know.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Well then you must resign from the government!
    James Hacker: Ah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not *that* unilateralist! Anyway, the Americans will always protect us from the Russians, won't they?
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: Russians? Who's talking about the Russians?
    James Hacker: Well, the independent deterrent.
    Sir Humphrey Appleby: It's to protect us against the French!
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    no - far from it.

    There is a reasonable possibility that the UK will withdraw from the EU and change its status to simply be part of the EEA

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    Quote Originally Posted by physicist View Post

    Despite increasing Euroscepticism the UK particularly GB seems to be moving towards a fiscal unity with France even without a common currency.

    So is the UK sleepwalking into Un Royaume-République?
    Fiscal unity with France?

    The UK, particularly GB?

    I'm confused Ted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrem View Post
    no - far from it.

    There is a reasonable possibility that the UK will withdraw from the EU and change its status to simply be part of the EEA
    in effect they'd be joining EFTA...

    After their banking relations with most of them ... The Swiss and the Liechenstiners won't let them in, nor the Icelandics ... Hard cheese old chap! Leaves the Norweigans.

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    England is Northern France, and has been since 1066.

    An unruly child certainly, but she must return to France.

    The Eurostar is such a wonderful way to escape the terrible weather.

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    Is this the return of the Angevin Empire?

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