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Thread: Home Rule Act-did anybody suggest separate Home Rule for the North?

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    Default Home Rule Act-did anybody suggest separate Home Rule for the North?

    Obviously,Ulster protestants didn't want to be dominated by a Roman Catholic majority,especially given the intensely religious Catholocism of that time. Had the UK government proposed a separate Home Rule government for the North,that would have kept Protestants happy and the Home Rule Act would not have been postponed because of WWI. Presumably, the 1916 rising would not have occured. But Ireland might still have left the Union eventually in a peaceful referendum in the South.

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    Interesting fact.

    The Government of Ireland act 1920 which created two autonomous regions in the UK, Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland may have created a sticky issue.
    The act stated that Northern Ireland consisted of the 6 northern counties while the south was everything else.
    However, when Northern Ireland was subsumed briefly into the Free State, the opted out two days later declaring that they would go back to the previous situation made in the GoI act.
    This did not include the seas around Northern Ireland. Which the Free State claimed from the beginning. So there could be a historical legitimate claim for the Irish State to claim Northern Ireland's seas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patslatt View Post
    Obviously,Ulster protestants didn't want to be dominated by a Roman Catholic majority,especially given the intensely religious Catholocism of that time. Had the UK government proposed a separate Home Rule government for the North,that would have kept Protestants happy and the Home Rule Act would not have been postponed because of WWI. Presumably, the 1916 rising would not have occured. But Ireland might still have left the Union eventually in a peaceful referendum in the South.
    What you suggest might have prevented the 1916 rebellion. It would not have prevented the Troubles of the period 1969 to the present. Direct rule of Northern Ireland from London from 1922 to 1968 would probably have prevented the Troubles of the period 1969 to the preent.

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    The 1920 Home Rule Act brought in home rule for NI, along with a Council of Ireland to work towards a united parliament over decades. But Sinn Fein didn't like it at all, and Ulster Unionists only accepted it as second best.

    "did anybody suggest"? - that'd be Walter Long.
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    John Redmond offered Craig a Federal Ireland with a Northern Parliament subordinate to one in Dublin and he turned him down.
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    The exclusion of four north eastern counties was proposed in an amendment to the Home Rule Act in the Westminster parliament in 1912 but was defeated.

    So the division of the country was ruled out by a majority of the most powerful parliament in the world. Despite that it was implemented after the 1st world war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruserious View Post
    Interesting fact.

    The Government of Ireland act 1920 which created two autonomous regions in the UK, Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland may have created a sticky issue.
    The act stated that Northern Ireland consisted of the 6 northern counties while the south was everything else.
    However, when Northern Ireland was subsumed briefly into the Free State, the opted out two days later declaring that they would go back to the previous situation made in the GoI act.
    This did not include the seas around Northern Ireland. Which the Free State claimed from the beginning. So there could be a historical legitimate claim for the Irish State to claim Northern Ireland's seas.
    We better get that sorted out before the drilling starts .

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