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Thread: Men as 'head of family' on minimum wage ?

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    Default Men as 'head of family' on minimum wage ?

    Is it possible for a man to be the functioning 'head of a family' while earning minimum wage ? With a 'stay at home' partner who minds the kids fulltime. Regardless on whether they are married or not. Is this a viable option in our society or has our economy/welfare/legal system made it a virtual impossibility ? By 'head of family' we may understand this as equals in a partnership of 2 equal adult parents.

    History is full of impoverished and poor families that do not question the orthodoxy of having only one male breadwinner supporting his own kids. What about now ? Is the woman better off being officially single and seeing the father of her kids for just a few hours a week ? Or pretending to see him just a few hours per week when he really is living full time at her address ?

    How well is the institution of the family surviving the economic downturn ? Answers please, especially from anybody earning minimum wage or from women with a father of their kids who earns minimum wage. As usual, please keep responses polite and respectful at all times.
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    How about gender-balance in immigration into ireland ? Is it currently 40 blokes arriving for every 1 woman arriving on these shores ?

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    The answer is Yes and it has to be.....

    The assumption seems to be that because someone starts on minimum wage then they are automatically on it for life rather than it being a short term floor.

    This is a fallacy rather than it being a starting point where through experience of work, training and opportunities that persons moves either through the organisation they are in or into another organisation.

    It is then their work experience (relevant or not), their punctuality etc gets taken into consideration in setting a wage for a different job.

    If a person still continues to be on minimum wage after a couple of years then you question whether they are actually doing anything to move themselves off it.

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    There would be quite a few households these days where the female is the breadwinner I'd be willing to wager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellach View Post
    There would be quite a few households these days where the female is the breadwinner I'd be willing to wager.
    I'd say you would be close to the mark there in a lot of cases, particularly as a lot of women gravitate to reasonably well paid state jobs such as teaching, nursing, medicine, and the civil service.
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    personally I don't believe in the definition of the head of household

    in fact I think any family who label someone as head of a household defined by financial imput are backward

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iarmhi Gael View Post
    personally I don't believe in the definition of the head of household

    in fact I think any family who label someone as head of a household defined by financial imput are backward
    Agreed - the whole idea of "head of the house" is backward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tea Shark View Post
    Agreed - the whole idea of "head of the house" is backward.
    ok, lets say as a very minimum 'can a man on minimum wage be a 'joint equal' of the lady of the house ? Or has the working class male been consigned to the dustbin of family history ?
    How about gender-balance in immigration into ireland ? Is it currently 40 blokes arriving for every 1 woman arriving on these shores ?

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    Rent allowance and Family Income Supplement make a minimum wage job worthwhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iarmhi Gael View Post
    personally I don't believe in the definition of the head of household

    in fact I think any family who label someone as head of a household defined by financial imput are backward
    Indeed.

    Equal status how are you.

    Thought the days of "Is the Boss in" were long gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by potholedogger View Post
    Rent allowance and Family Income Supplement make a minimum wage job worthwhile.
    meh, socialism

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